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I had a similar problem years ago when I accidently put the fuel cap on 
backwards.  Make sure that the vent holes are facing foreward....
Bill Coons

Tommy Terry wrote:
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> Hello Ron,
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> I’m a novice myself but the one thing I’ve seen missing from this 
> conversation so far is about that restrictor.  Make sure it is in the 
> discharge side of the mechanical pump.
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> Ron,
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> The other advice I’ve seen so far is good.  One caution to Hartmut’s 
> suggestion of borrowing a known good pump:  the crankcase arm of the 
> pump is specific to the model series of the engine.  A C-75/85 arm won’t

> work in a C-90.  Ditto O-200.  If you borrow a pump, be SURE it has the 
> right arm.
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> Before the more complex suggestions listed by others, here’s my
suggestion:
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> 1.  Check the fuel valve on the right side of the fuselage, high up 
> under the instrument panel, and make sure it’s in the open position.  On

> my Coupe open was horizontal. It’s so hard to see, it’d be easy to 
> overlook it.  Perhaps this valve is just partially open and you’re 
> seeing the results of really slow fuel transfer.
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> 2. The intermittency make me think of a drain that’s sometimes blocked 
> by sludge and sometimes not.  I’d suggest you take a hose and get a 
> siphon going from your fuel tanks and “vacuum” out the tanks into a 
> couple of fuel cans.  Vacuum the entire bottom and corners of the tanks 
> (a good thing to do periodically).  Carefully inspect the inside of the 
> tanks.  Clean the screens at the bottom.  Disconnect the line from the 
> pump and blow into it, having someone watch in the tanks to see if you 
> get bubbles.
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> Also, be aware that the basic mechanical fuel pump can pump way more 
> than the engine can use.  That’s why Coupes have a restrictor on the 
> exit side of the pump on the fuel line that goes to the header tank.  
> Make sure that doesn’t get removed in all this fussing around.
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> curiosity is aroused.  (Also, if it’s not resolved, we’ll help you beat 
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> Good luck.  Hope it turns out to be easy.
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> Hello out there, My name is Ron Sinclair and I recently purchased an 
> Ercoupe 415-E sn 3000.   The problem I am having is the fuel is not 
> getting to the header tank consistantly. The plane has two fuel pumps, 
> an electric one that is in line with the mechanical...which I'm guessing

> was an attempt to solve the problem. (It should be noted that the 
> electric pump was installed in Canada where the plane was restored, and 
> when it was sold in the States the FSDO signed off on it with the new 
> Airworthiness Cert.) So with that loophole, I plan on keeping it. 
> Anyway...The plane seems to run off of the header only after an hour or 
> so of flight...or will pump fuel just fine untill you stop to refuel or 
> take a break..then upon leaving the airport will start running off the 
> header...the other day for instance I flew about thirty minutes to an 
> airport..then about 45 min. to another..didn't refuel and the plane 
> started running of the header on the way back...stopped to refuel and 
> didn't run off the header...flew to two more airports totalling about an

> hour more with no problems...today after only about thirty minutes of 
> flight with full fuel, it started running off the header again. When you

> land it resumes pumping the header back up... Running the electric pump 
> when it does this does no good.. yet both pumps seem to work well on the

> ground. The first thing I tried was taking the electric pump out of the 
> system and running just the mechanical...thinking that maybe the 
> electric was restricting the other being in-line and not on... or that 
> perhaps the electric was vapor locking and causing the problem... This 
> hasn't worked and now I'm planning on reversing the experiment by taking

> the mechanical out of the sytem and running just the electric.. The 
> problem is too random to detect any pattern... It may be fine or start 
> running off the header after only thirty minutes...any ideas?   Ron
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