Hi Chip, and Welcome!

I am replying because I may be the only one on this list who does  
*none* of the mechanical work on my Ercoupe myself...not even oil  
changes. So you'll get an impression from my end of the bell curve,  
lol, after ~18 months of 'Coupe ownership.

I don't think anyone has yet mentioned how difficult it can be to  
find a mechanic who knows Ercoupes...in part precisely because so  
many of the Ercoupe owners do their own work!  I didn't understand  
that until after I had bought mine, and was amazed at what a struggle  
it was to find *anyone* local who had *any* experience with them.  
(Especially when everyone I asked at my home field tried to say that  
it didn't take any specialist because "they're such simple little  
planes." Sigh...)  I know it cost me extra downtime (as well as $)  
from the necessity of dealing with 3 serial sets of A&Ps at first,  
who were all figuring it out as they went along. They all said they  
"wouldn't charge for learning time," but I think only 1 *actually*  
didn't.

I did have a good A&P with some Ercoupe experience for the pre-buy.   
My then-CFI advised me to ask him how much extra it would be to then  
turn it into an annual. The A&P (and I) resisted that at the time,  
because it would have meant him going back again to the 3-hr distant  
airport where the plane was, and because it had 10 months to go on  
its current annual.

Also, I'm not sure whether the advice given to you -- to pay for the  
annual & then expect the seller to pay for remediation -- is  
practical in today's market, at least if you plan to buy an LSA-legal  
Ercoupe (C or CD models), which have so much demand that they sell in  
hours if not minutes of being posted.  I don't think most sellers  
would give you the contract on those terms, but I might be wrong.

One strong piece of advice about the pre-buy inspection:  be sure  
that the mechanic who does it has read -- really *read* -- the essay  
on pre-buy inspection of Ercoupes on Ed B's website.  Pay for the  
time to make him/her sit & read it, if necessary; it's that important.

About costs:  my then-CFI, well-respected & experienced, said he  
advises his students to expect that in the first 12 months you will  
spend 50% over the purchase price of an old plane in total costs  
(insurance, sales tax, tie-down or hangar fees, modifications,  
upgrades, repairs, etc.). I thought that was unrealistically high at  
the time... but it wasn't.

Your question about maintenance downtime suggests to me that you may  
resent the downtime even more than the cost of the repairs, as I did.  
Although already licensed, I was still taking instruction to re-learn  
to fly after many years away, and I hated it when lessons had to be  
canceled because the plane was down because a mechanic didn't have  
time to get to it (for 3 weeks, more than once!). I knew from the pre- 
buy that it needed lots of work, and what the major things were, but  
a lot of lost time went to trying to find mechanics who had the  
knowledge and time to do the work.  IIRC, it was about 6-8 weeks to  
get it initially flyable.

Ed Burkhead wrote:
"...or pay a good mechanic to fix up the accumulated sniffles."   
There were also "second waves," after I began flying it, as we found  
out what other (relatively minor) things needed fixing by seeing what  
broke, and as I somewhat exuberantly figured out what modifications/ 
improvements I wanted to make.  (If I'd known about the former, I'd  
have tabled the latter, as it just over-complicated things until the  
repairs were mostly made.)  Plus mine had a 4-month nightmare of  
trying to troubleshoot radio problems (see "My Radio Saga" in our  
Tech Archives, for how much can go wrong with even a new avionics  
installation.)

Our EOC Calif. Wing Director thought mine was an unusual case of  
"Stuff" coming up over the course of the first year...but then Frank  
Nelson, who is also on this Tech list, brought his "new" 'Coupe to  
the same field last Spring, and -- although his had been lovingly  
maintained and flown, while mine had been a recent partial  
restoration of one that had sat idle too long -- Frank's stuck valve,  
annual, and back-to-back problem-solving experiences have still  
delayed his checkride for months (and Frank is doing at least some of  
the work himself, I believe).

So, unless you are so fortunate as to *find* the very rare "cherry"  
Ercoupe that Ed mentioned, I'd prepare as a rule of thumb to have  
much more downtime than you want or expect for the first 12 months.   
Unfortunately, that's just when you'll probably also be the most  
eager to fly it, but I don't see any way around that with your  
average 60-yr-old plane; just prepare for it, and if you get away  
without it, count yourself very lucky.   After about the first year,  
rather than frequent interruptions, I've now become able to mostly  
schedule work to be done when I'm going to be flying it over to the  
A&P for its 25-hr checkups & service anyway.

So that's the view from the Not My Own Mechanic edge of the  
envelope.  I hope it helped to see this extreme case, and to know  
that if you start out understanding some mechanics (I didn't), that  
puts you far enough ahead already that it shouldn't be as tough a  
first year as mine was. And maybe the best bottom line I can offer  
is:  if I had it to do over again, would I still have bought my  
'Coupe?  You bet!! :D

Linda
3437H (Sky Sprite)
'46 415-C
L.A.

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