A couple of concerns:

1. The mix of gasoline and ethanol is not necessarily homogenous, meaning
that the total in a gas station tank may be 10 % ethanol, but the portion
you actually pump out may have considerably more, or less, than 10 %
ethanol. That will take all the predictability out of mixing it with avgas
to keep the ethanol to less than 5 %.

2. I may be wrong, but I am not sure there is approval for a mix of mogas
and avgas. I like the idea, but would be concerned about insurance picking
up on it and denying an engine failure related claim.  Anybody knows?

Sorry for raining on the parade...

Eliacim


> Here are a few things that I have found out about fuel in the past
> few days. Since the Mogas STC does not allow for automotive gasoline
> that contains ethanol, the question was asked about where you can
> get gasoline that does not have Ethanol. I thought my sport pilot
> instructor had a source in California. That was partially true.
> Apparently "all" gasoline sold in California has between 4% and 6%
> Ethanol. Through the Ultralight forums, there is a list of the exact
> amount of ethanol in the gasoline that each company is producing.
> Right now Mobil is low and ARCO is the highest in California. My
> instructor buys from Mobil and mixes 100LL aviation fuel to reduce
> the Ethanol percentage. The Rotax engine can tolerate up to 5% which
> is the same percentage that is listed in the EAA STC for mogas as
> the absolute-don't-use-it maximum.
>
> In some states, only E10 (10% ethanol blend) is available by law.
> Some states have passed laws that the premium grade of automotive
> gasoline contains no ethanol. In California, there is a mandate to
> move to E10 by 2010 but the refineries will need to invest in their
> transportation and handling infrastructure to support that.
>
> Relate to this discussion is the news that TCP will begin production
> of TCP again around April of this year. They had some problems with
> their packaging that tended to leak.  The EAA recommended that
> people use the auto fuel STC in the meantime. They also suggested
> mixing 100LL with auto fuel to provide the same benefits of STC with
> respect to lead fouling. They recommended a mixure of three-fourths
> autogas and one-fourth 100LL which would contain the same lead
> content as was allowed in the 80/87 octane aviation fuel (suitable
> for the Ercoupe).
>
> So it seems that mixing 100LL and ethanol-blended auto gas will
> solve both the lead problem and the alcohol problem. If you only
> have E10 available, it looks like you would have to mix 50-50 to get
> the percentage of alcohol down to 5% or lower. At that point the
> lead content is half as bad but not yet done to the level of 80/87
> avgas (no longer available). A higher mixture of mogas can be used
> if the actual alcohol content is less than 10%, but it will require
> some research and/or testing to know what the content is to ensure
> that the mixture does not contain more than 5% alcohol.
>
> Of course the use of 100LL is the other option which will need TCP
> available to mitigate the risk of lead fouling. WOW… we practically
> have to make our own fuel to provide the right fuel for our birds.
>
> Frank Nelson
> N51DV – 415C
> TOA/California
>
>
>


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