Compliments to Wayne on his jape.  It's got more truth in it than I like.
Coupes have never been great climbers even though they match planes with 30
more horsepower in cruise speed.

John, I had a way higher ceiling than 7,000' before I got my mixture cleaned
and re-connected.  I could get up to 12,500 even then though it did take
longer.  (I did have a 7146 prop rather than your ??47 - that shouldn't make
all that much difference.)  

Even with leaning, it still takes a long time to get to 12,500'.  The
"highest" I ever got was 14,500' density altitude (about 11,500' that hot
turbulent day in Nevada).

Ed

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
> Behalf Of John Roach
> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 10:46 PM
> To: e-tech
> Subject: Re: FW: [ercoupe-tech] performance charts
> 
> Another variable would be the ability to lean the engine on the ground.
> As a flatlander, my carb is wired full rich and there is no sign of a
> mixture control in the cockpit. Were I to contemplate flying out west,
> I'd want to make sure that I could lean the carb well before I bought
> the charts for the trip. I've had my 415C (C 85 with a 47 pitch prop and
> gross about 1200 lbs) up to 7000 MSL on a hot summer day when I
> estimated the density altitude as approximately 10,000 ft. It really had
> no climb left at that point and it took a lot longer to get there than
> it took to come down.
> John Roach
> N 2427H
> 
> Ed Burkhead wrote:
> >
> >
> > Dan,
> >
> > Perhaps you could post the engine, propeller type, length and pitch and
> > intended gross weight on the forum and that would help us give you some
> > guidelines.
> >
> > I don't think performance data was researched and published for the C
> > model
> > Coupes.
> >
> > I made one excursion through Wyoming with a C-85 at about 1350 lb. gross
> > weight with an extreme climb propeller (7146 McCauley). With the engine
> > leaned before takeoff, I got off the ground at the 1/3rd mark of each
high
> > altitude runway.
> >
> > Climbing after getting off was another issue. The downdrafts from the
> > summer thermals after 10:30 a.m. dwarfed my climb rate. I had to look
> > for a
> > hot spot on the ground, fly over to it (low level) and circle in the
> > enormous updraft.
> >
> > Before 10:30 a.m., the flying was the best I've ever had!
> >
> > (Limited experience, limited answer - but the best information I've
got.)
> >
> > Ed
> >

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