Interesting about the damaged Cirrus (Cirri) showing up.

As an FBO, one of my main biases toward any composite airplane is the
difficulty of fixing minor airframe damage in the field.

If a customer dings a wing tip of a metal airplane, my guys can fix it in
our shop.  Not so with a composite.

We had a fool fly our 172 a couple of years ago without tying down the small
step ladder that was in the baggage bay.  Then she took some friends a ride,
and was doing some mild, negative G push overs.  The ladder floated up, hit
the rear window, shattering it.

Shards of the window hit the tail surfaces, and actually put a couple of
nice sized cuts in the sheet metal.  One of the shards stayed imbedded in
the horizontal stab.

Our guys re-skinned the horizontal, painted the new skin, and had the
airplane back on line in less than a week.

Try doing that in a typical FBO maint. shop with a composite airframe.

Jerry E.
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  Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 11:15 PM
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  I watch the insurance company aircraft salvage sites and Cirrus aircraft
show up pretty often. Have also seen a few damaged Cirrus projects on ebay




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    Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:01:41 -0500
    Subject: Re: [ercoupe-tech] July Flying Mag


    IMHO it's the same that happens to Cirrus. The way it is marketed, and
the fact that it has a parachute (which is indeed a wonderful safety
feature) tempts pilots not so be as cautious and careful as they should be,
so they abuse the safety feature.
    Apart from the "psychological trap", I don't think the Ercoupe, nor the
Cirrus, are less safe than other GA airplanes, quite the contrary.
    Just MHO
    Eliacim

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      Subject: [ercoupe-tech] July Flying Mag



      Have you all seen the July issue of Flying magazine article on Angle
of Attack. page 60? Have you ever wondered why our airplanes never achieved
Fred Weick's  expectation that the non spinable Ercoupe would be a safer
airplane? Perhaps this is part of the answer: stall-mush type accidents.
Flip over ( trapped inside) and fire may be another factor. How about a
vigorous discussion of this issue with some suggestions about how to
increase safety ?
      Jim Graham
      N2418H






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