Hi William,
Thank you for the correction.  It's good to know the elevator trim springs are 
not 'flight critical' as I had been told.    

I'd be interested to hear what the actual experiences have been of others who 
have had a trim wire failure without the spring & trim stop.

My Ercoupe is S/N 4669 and has the spring & stop installed on the elevator 
trim.  I 'pumped up' my forearms pushing nose down for the flight home when the 
trim wire broke.   

Dan Hall
N3968H

---- "William R. Bayne" <[email protected]> wrote: 
> 
> All,
> 
> Per Ercoupe Service Memorandum No. 55A, only Ercoupes with serial 
> numbers 4869 ("E" Models and subsequent) were originally produced with 
> elevator trim stops and springs.  The trim stop and spring was 
> "designed to prevent elevator flutter in the event that the elevator 
> trim tab actuating wire broke during flight".
> 
> SK 14 (about $15) is Univair's kit to add the elevator trim stops and 
> springs to earlier Ercoupes.
> 
> I would speculate, human inertia being one of the more common and 
> powerful forces existing, that more than half of the active fleet still 
> DOES NOT HAVE the trim stop and spring modification.  While said 
> modification obviously adds a measure of safety in excess of it's 
> nominal cost, Ercoupes without it should NOT be considered "accidents 
> waiting to happen".
> 
> Understand that many Ercoupes were shipped from the factory in boxcars 
> after flight testing and reassembled by distributors prior to sale.  
> Kinking of the solid trim wire was not uncommon, and I would tend to 
> believe that many of the clots that kinked trim wire (always at the 
> same place) just straightened it...and the plane went to its new owner 
> with trim wire of considerably less than original design strength.
> 
> Accordingly, it is likely that many, many Ercoupes suffered breakage of 
> the trim wire WITHOUT trim stops and springs and the pilots lived to 
> tell the tale.  Why?  Because with the onset of an unusual noise or 
> "flight condition" our first instinct is to exercise caution...if we're 
> going fast, slow down  ;<)
> 
> Every proficient pilot has a reasonable knowledge of the risks accepted 
> each time the wheels leave the ground.  A new pilot's license is 
> sometimes called a "license to learn".  In truth the recipient has 
> entered a race for as long as he lives....to acquire knowledge and 
> proficiency before circumstances thrust upon him the role of untutored 
> test pilot.  Those who are uncomfortable with that concept should 
> seriously consider a more forgiving vocation or hobby than flying.
> 
> In the aforementioned context, if your plane has free play in the 
> controls, you should have measured (or had measured) said play and 
> verified said play does not exceed acceptable limits.  With regard to 
> ailerons, the "good news" is that more free play is "acceptable" if the 
> original balance weights are still fitted.  The "bad news" is that the 
> factory considered them a "maintenance problem" and a "flight hazard if 
> permitted to become loose...".  Removal was "...not mandatory, 
> but...recommended..." and the ship became lighter by 3.5 lbs.
> 
> "Bottom line" is that flutter directly relates to speed.  So long as 
> the plane is under control, even a nominal reduction in speed should 
> stop flutter.  Immediate and significant power reduction is the most 
> intuitive action and will likely resolve the situation.
> 
> In southern California I once unexpectedly encountering an extremely 
> strong convective updraft flying parallel to mountainous terrain.  From 
> an initial altitude of approximately 2000' MSA and AGL, cloud cover 
> above (height unknown), even after reducing power to idle my rate of 
> climb was still almost 2000 FPM.
> 
> Hindsight being 20-20, I should have raised the nose to make use of the 
> coupe's considerable low speed sink rate (as they say in 
> computers...that's not a "bug", that's a "feature".)  Instead I shoved 
> the nose as far down as I could and held it at that angle that I would 
> not exceed 144 MPH.  I also turned 90º away from rising terrain on my 
> left.  Very soon I exited that updraft and things returned to "normal". 
>   It's amazing when your adrenalin "pops" how much time you have to 
> choose and implement options.
> 
> My point is this...a broken trim wire under such condition could have 
> had two outcomes.  With power already at idle, I don't remember what my 
> indicated airspeed was.  I now realize that by raising the nose to drop 
> it further, flutter would not have been possible.
> 
> By lowering the nose, it is within the realm of possibility that the 
> increased speed might have overstressed a marginal trim wire.  Sudden 
> and violent trim tab induced elevator flutter under such circumstances 
> might have torn the plane apart.  That's the trouble with learning from 
> experience...you have to pass your "final exam" before you get the 
> knowledge!
> 
> Just as ERCO challenged anyone to show they could spin a properly 
> rigged Ercoupe and airworthy Ercoupe (no one ever collected), I do not 
> believe flutter possible from an unrestrained trim tab of either type 
> certificate dimension once forward speed is reduced below 70 mph IAS 
> (per an airspeed indicator of acceptable variation and accuracy).
> 
> Don't know if your air speed indicator meets that criteria?  Go back to 
> the earlier paragraph beginning "Every proficient pilot has a 
> reasonable knowledge of the risks accepted each time the wheels leave 
> the ground."
> 
> I have every confidence that Dan would have found it quite possible to 
> "...continue on to a safe place to land" in the absence of the spring 
> and stop, although I don't doubt he's glad he wasn't forced to prove 
> it.  ;<)
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> William R. Bayne
> .____|-(o)-|____.
> (Copyright 2008)
> 
> -- 
> 
> On Dec 27, 2008, at 20:59, <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > Art,
> > Good point.  The elevator trim tab wire failed in flight one time in 
> > my Ercouope N3968H, and the spring made it merely uncomfortable to 
> > continue on to a safe place to land.
> >
> > If the spring(s) hadn't been there I may not have been so fortunate.
> >
> > Dan Hall
> > N3968H
> >
> >
> > ---- Art Langston <[email protected]> wrote: 

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