This is something else from the Beech list.  As what happens here, every so 
often a generator problem comes up.  As with any other subject it is usually 
beaten to death.  This is something we may find helpful.  I'm pretty sure we 
all have Delco generators but there are some others mentioned just in case.

Al



John,

I'm attaching some info from the Vintage Bonanza website for however much 
value it may be. We often run into electrical issues with our construction 
equipment (combination of coastal environment and dirt) and take the "quick 
and dirty" approach of replacing the cheapest parts first until we find the 
culprit to avoid downtime - thats after everything has has a CorrosionX 
bath. It works 80% of the time and saves lot's o dough. So in your case, 
clean the contacts on the voltage regulator, replace the generator circuit 
breaker, consider replacing the generator lead with larger wire (which 
you'll need if you upgrade anyway). The last thing you want to do is pull 
the generator. That's a PITA.

Brad

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Troubleshooting Alternator and Generator Issues:


DC Charging systems can be identified as "A" or "B" circuit.  It is 
necessary for the technician to determine
which system he has in order to properly troubleshoot.  The "A" system 
controls the output by regulating the
field circuit to ground.  The "B" circuit controls the output by regulating 
the battery to field.

All Delco Remy Generator charging systems are "A" circuit, therefore their 
regulator controlled how much
ground was placed on the generator field circuit.  This was originally 
accomplished by a vibrating point system
in the voltage regulator.  The more the points were vibrating toward the 
closed position the more the output.
The further apart the points were during the vibrating function,  the less 
the output.

The solid state generator controls work by controlling the generator field 
to ground through a system of
electronic components rather than the vibrating points.  The theory remains 
the same,  the more ground on
the generator field,  the more output and vice versa.

Most general aviation alternators are "B" circuit.  In order for them to 
output current from the alternator,
battery must be applied to the field.  The more battery to field, the higher 
the output.  The regulator is then
assigned the task of controlling the amount of battery to field.   There are 
some general aviation charging
systems that are of the "A" circuit type.  These are normally found in 
prestolite alternator systems with two
field terminals on the alternator.  If neither of the fields is grounded to 
the frame of the altnator,  then
the system is "A" circuit.  This simply means that the voltage regulator is 
controlling the alternator field
to ground to control output.

The reason it is important for the technician to determine whether the 
system is of the "A" or "B" style is so
that they can proceed to diagnose the system.  A common method of diagnosing 
charging system problems begins
with the full field test.  This test is used as a method of determining 
whether the generator or alternator is
functioning.   Since  the regulator controls how much battery or ground is 
being applied to the generator or
alternator,  the full field test requires bypassing the regulator and 
jumping full ground or battery to the
field circuit.  This causes the generator or alternator to charge at full 
output when rotated at cruise RPM.

If you are testing a Delco Remy Generator system, remove both the armature 
and field  wires from the generator.
To prevent damage, cover the wire ends with tape.  Next, jump the field post 
on the generator to a good airframe
ground.  Connect a DC voltmeter to the generator armature terminal.  Connect 
the plus side to the post and the negative
side of  the meter to ground.  With the field grounded the generator,  if 
good,  will generate a voltage on the armature
terminal.  The voltmeter should follow the throttle.  The more engine speed 
the more output.   Using a digital meter in
this application is sometimes not effective.  An analog (needle movement) 
meter is much more reliable.

Should you have a Generator that is not Delco,  it could possibly be of the 
"B" circuit, Field to Battery,  type
application.  If so,  follow the instructions in the previous paragraph, 
except connect the jumper from the Armature to
the Field post.   Then connect  the meter from the armature post to ground 
and measure the output voltage.  Normally,
the generators manufactured by Bendix, General Electric and Leece Neville, 
adopted  the "B" circuit method.

When testing general aviation alternators,  the brands encountered will be 
Ford, usually found on Cessna and  Chrysler
on most older Pipers.  You might also run across Delco Alternators on 
various models of Piper and Beech aircraft.
Motorola units, in the form of STC approvals by Alcor or InterAv, must also 
be taken into consideration.  All of these
unit are "B" circuit requiring a jumper  from the Battery post to the field 
post in order to "full field".  This means
you must remove the field wire,  tape the terminal for protection,  and 
connect a jumper from the large output terminal
over to the field post.  Connect your DC voltmeter from the output terminal 
to ground and the voltage should thenfollow
the RPM if the alternator is good.

In the instances where you have a Prestolite charging system,  you must 
first determine whether the system is "A" or
"B" circuit.  If the alternator has only one field post it is "B" circuit 
and requires jumping battery to field.  If
the unit has two field post, normally f1 and f2,  disconnect both field 
wires and protect.  Now connect one jumper from
the Battery output post to one field post and a second jumper from the 
remaining field post to ground.  This will full
field the dual field models.  The voltmeter is connected from the Output 
post to ground as in the previous example.

If the generator or alternator passes the full field test the next most 
likely culprit is the voltage regulator.  A
fairly reliable quick test is to connect your voltmeter to the wire 
delivering battery to the regulator from the bus.
This should read battery voltage, either 12 or 24 volts depending on the 
system.  If you are getting good input voltage
to the regulator,  connect your voltmeter to the field circuit exiting the 
regulator.  You should read some amount of
voltage.   If the reading is zero the voltage regulator is probably 
defective.

Before replacing the regulator it is always a good idea to measure the 
resistance of the field circuit.  This can be
done at the regulator field wire or on the field post of the generator or 
alternator.  The normal reading from the
field post on 12 volt systems is 4 to 6 ohms.  On 24 volt systems this 
doubles to 8 to 12 ohms.  This can vary slightly
and still be considered normal.

This writer has high hopes this explanation makes some sense and that the 
reader is not totally confused.   If, however,
you would rather discuss this by telephone to perhaps get a better 
description,  please do not hesitate to call us
at our toll free number (1-800-634-0190).



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