Thanks for the response.  I will call Teledyne tomorrow and get their 
opinion, from the horse's mouth so to speak.  It's a little puzzling 
to me, however, that this mechanic chose to return this battery to 
service after being frozen if it is, in fact, a "slightly damaged 
grenade" as you described it, awaiting discharge inside the cockpit's 
luggage area.  If he is that inept at his job, how then could one 
justify paying such a mechanic for putting me in harm's way with a 
battery that is (allegedly) waiting to explode?  Either he is a bad 
mechanic or he is by his actions purposely allowing an aircraft part 
known to him to be defective to be placed back into service thus, by 
definition, declaring same as airworthy whether he signs off on it in 
a log book or simply presenting me with a bill for recharging, 
testing, and replacing the battery we're discussing here.  To tell 
you the truth, if I find out that this battery should have been 
replaced, I'm going to try and have this mechanic disciplined for 
gross malpractice.  Damned if I'm going to take a chance on getting 
myself, or possibly a passenger of mine, or some other person or 
persons, killed due to his negligence.  I am not a certificated 
aircraft mechanic; therefore I must rely, by law, on one who is to do 
what is right and proper to protect the airworthiness of my 
airplane.  Thanks for the heads up.

Respectfully,
Carl LaVon  


-- In [email protected], wdelro...@... wrote:
>
> Ed,
> 
> If I'm reading?FAR 43 correctly, this maintenance action?should be 
entered into the Aircraft (not Engine) logbook.? 
> 
> But I'd be willing to bet you a cold Coke that your mechanic will 
not be willing to enter the problem (frozen battery) and corrective 
action (thawed, recharged and reinstalled battery) in your logbook.? ?
I don't know the?manufacturer of your battery, but?I would suggest 
that you?contact the manufacturer and see what they have to say about 
thawing out a frozen battery and putting it back in service.
> 
> The Gill's Maintenance manual says to replace the battery if it is 
frozen.? 
> 
> See:
> http://gillbatteries.com/pdfs/Flooded_Service_Manual.pdf
> 
> From Page 37:
> Problem, Cause and Recommendations
> 
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> 
> 
> Electrolyte in battery freezes. 
> 
> 
> 
> Battery left in a discharged state. 
> 
> Electrolyte specific gravity too 
> 
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> 
> Replace battery. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ?
> So whatever brand of battery you have, I doubt that your mechanic 
is going to be able to sign that off "in accordance with" anything at 
all.
> 
> Technicalities and legalities aside, there's no way I would fly an 
airplane with a battery that had been frozen, thawed and recharged.? 
To me, that's like flying?around with a slightly damaged grenade?in 
the baggage compartment.? Too much energy, no containment if 
something goes wrong.
> 
> BTW, for what it's worth, I agree with you about the bill.? I 
wouldn't complain at all about 1 hour of labor cost?to remove, charge 
and reinstall a battery in a Coupe.? That seems more than 
reasonable.? For that 1 hour charge you got his time (even if it was 
only 12 minutes), his tools,?his battery charger, his electricity, 
his insurance coverage, and probably the use of his facility.? When I 
pay my mechanic, I?am always worried that he's not charging enough to 
stay in business and that he won't be there when I need him again!?
> 
> 
> As always, just my opinion.
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Wayne DelRossi
> Alon N5618F
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: carl_lavon <profedi...@...>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 4:45 pm
> Subject: [ercoupe-tech] Battery repair...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I told the group recently of my leaving the master switch on and my 
> battery going dead and freezing. Line guy removed the battery, let 
it 
> thaw, charged it, a mechanic tested it then left it on the bench 
for 
> two days, re-tested and inspected the battery again and returned it 
to 
> service. Question: Is that something that should be included in my 
> aircraft log or engine log? Or is it of no consequence and not 
worth 
> an entry? And, yes, they charged me a full hour for about 12 
minutes 
> work! I'm disabled and not a mechanic and I don't play one on TV, 
so 
> I'm not bitching (I guess) about tbe bill. I'm asking because this 
is 
> my first aircraft and I'm not sure what should be included insofar 
as 
> aircraft and engine log entries go. My Grandfather always said that 
> the only stupid question...
> 
> Respects and thanks in advance,
> 
> Carl LaVon
> N415CB '46 ERCO 415C
> KJVY
>


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