Was it John who wrote:
> "I don't believe that a Sport Pilot eligible Ercoupe can be 
> a Certified Light Sport Airplane."    ???
> 
Percy answered:
> That is correct, John.  The Ercoupes, like some other planes 
> (J-3 Cub, Taylorcrafts, Luscombs) falls under the classification 
> of planes that can be flown by a Sport Pilot under those rules 
> (no night, have to be able to see the ground, etc.).

Ah, terminology!

An Ercoupe is a "certificated" aircraft.  It has the traditional type of
certificate, the same as a Bonanza, Cherokee, etc.

Some few certificated aircraft are ALSO "Light Sport Aircraft" because
they also meet the definition of LSA.  This doesn't mean that the
airplane stops being certificated nor does it change in any way.

There are two or sort-of-three types of LSA aircraft with _special_
airworthiness certificates.

1.  SLSA - Special Light Sport Aircraft   These are manufactured
according to the industry consensus standard.  The industry used the
existing industry consensus standard  organization, ASTM.

The consensus standard includes required flying characteristics, control
forces, structural strength, testing procedures, material strength,
source and tracking of materials, etc.

Though this is a "voluntary" industry consensus standard, the FAA
participated in the committee meetings and made "suggestions" that were
not ignored.  (I joined ASTM and participated in phone conference
committee meetings, voted on standards and made a few suggestions during
my year of membership.)

The resulting standards are pretty rigorous, yet aren't nearly as
expensive to comply with as were standard requirements for certificated
aircraft.

SLSA aircraft are factory manufactured.

2.  ELSA  Experimental LSA   These are aircraft that came and come in
three categories.

2a.  Grandfathered ELSA  These are all the pre-existing illegal
"ultralight" aircraft, "fat ultralight" which were allowed to be
inspected by the FAA or a DER and be certified much like experimental
amateur built aircraft.  They may fly pretty much anywhere like EAB.

2b.  ELSA   Kit built LSA    I don't know if any of these actually
exist, yet.  A kit built ELSA is made from factory provided materials
and assembled by the factory approved builder's manual.  They must be
done exactly like the factory says.  There are few options and all
options must be factory approved.  They must be inspected, IIRC, by a
factory representative to ensure compliance with building instructions
before getting their special airworthiness certificate.

Finally, ANY aircraft that meets the legal definition of Light Sport
Aircraft IS a Light Sport Aircraft.

So, there are a bunch of Experimental Amateur Built aircraft (EAB) that
also are LSA and qualified to be flown with a Sport Pilot as pilot in
command.  Refer to Part 1 - Definitions and abbreviations  ยง1.1 General
definitions at:
http://sportpilot.org/learn/sp_rule.pdf 

Summary:  An Ercoupe is and always will be a certificated aircraft,
subject to all requirements thereto.  As an aside, many are ALSO
eligible as LSA and legal to be flown by a Sport Pilot (or a Private
Pilot operating under Sport Pilot privileges) acting as pilot in
command.

Ed

Ed Burkhead
http://edburkhead.com/Ercoupe/index.htm 
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