Ed,

The ACS (Airworthiness Concern Sheet) from the Sebring crash was discussed in great detail on Tech back in September.

Observers heard the engine winding up as if in a dive. NTSB evidence confirms that the top spar cap failed under negative G force, and that the seat with occupants was ejected from the airframe. (read the last paragraph through now before proceeding further here...and yes, Bob Sanders wore a parachute while testing Ercoupes!) A high speed low pass with a sudden pull-up would result in positive spar loading. A "pull-up" is, however, consistent with accounts from observers on the ground, none of whom mention seeing the seat and occupants thrown from the cabin. The eyewitness accounts and the physical evidence do not seem to match.

Speeds in excess of 130 mph require a dive. Considerable forward yoke pressure is required and must be maintained. Let us speculate that the sudden loss of some 400 lbs. of occupants and forward yoke pressure could cause a structurally failed and unoccupied airframe to appear to "zoom", then turning and physically disintegrating. The very sight of such a sudden "zoom" would likely hold every watcher's absolute attention.

Just as the "art" of the magician relies, in no small part, on sufficient distraction of the audience that they do not "see" all that goes on before them, the departure of the occupants and seat as the flight path transitioned from dive to zoom could have gone unobserved. We don't have a diagram of the topography, the flight path in three dimensions or where each reporting observer stood. Ejection of the occupants would have been unexpected, and no observer mentioned seeing it . The human mind tends to dismiss that which our eyes "see" if those images are radically unfamiliar.

Per my (certified) letter to the FAA's Roger Caldwell of 9/23/09, pages 5 & 6 (and email to Tech of that date):

On November 8, 1948, Bob Sanders of Sanders Aviation issued "Ercoupe TakeOffs" #G3 entitled "Discouraging Aerobatics". This describes instances of "wingtip failures" and other structural failures reported in "recent months" and that "...wewere not surprised or alarmed since evidence presented strongly indicates misuse of the Ercoupes involved." He explains that the 144 mph red line "indicates themaximum speed for which the airplane is designed", pointing that all airplanes havea similar restriction and that speeds above this "will endanger the airplane and occupants inasmuch as excessive speed may induce wing flutter or other unpredictable difficulties which will, in some cases, cause immediate collapse of the structure". We have all seen reports of difficulties of other popular make airplanes caused by pilots exceeding design limitations." His last paragraph urges dealers to cooperate "in bringing to the attention of all Ercoupe owners and pilots the seriousness of exceeding the air speed red line and the inadvisability of doing aerobatics in the airplane since they may easily exceed the speed or accelerations which can be safely borne by the structure."

On December 1, 1948, W. L. Greene, then Chief Engineer of ERCO, wrote the CAA Aircraft Components Branch, Airframe & Appliance Engineering Division(1-301) following "several airplane accidents involving wing failure in flight". He states that "We are of the opinion that the most probable cause...is aileron flutter caused by a loose aileron control system. The wreckage of these airplanes...all indicated...failure of the main wing spar was caused by a negative lift load on the wing tip. This load could be applied in normal flight on a smooth day by a substantial twisting of the wing to provide a negative angle of attack of the tip. It...appears that a violent distortion of the wing took place from some cause. The only obvious cause appears to be wing tip or aileron flutter." In test flights investigating wing flutter, and with 9/16" looseness in the control system "we obtained a violent wing flutter, or aileron flutter, which caused the right aileron tobe torn from the hinge attachments and leave the airplane at a speed of about 190 miles an hour...".

On April 20, 1950, Norman A. Hubbard, D.E.R. 1-21 for ERCO wrote the CAA,Attn.: Chief, Aircraft Division (1-565) relative to flight tests for C.A.A. approval of the installation of the Trim-o-matic in Models E and G only. He mentions "The recent accident during flight test of the Trim-o-matic installation...occurred at about 180 mph calibrated air speed." The next week, on April 27, 1950, Bob Sanders of Sanders Aviation issued "Ercoupe Take-Offs" #P-7 entitled "TEST FLIGHT--1950 Ercoupe". This described the decision "to dive the airplane to the higher speed.required to approve the...installation on earlier airplanes, which were not limited against aerobatic maneuvers. In the process of this dive, which went to 185 m.p.h., something happened to the airplane causing it to nose down sharply, throwing me out of the airplane and causing substantial damage to the airplane, which resulted in its disintegration. ...initial and unofficial opinion is that the nose ribs of the outer panels deflected, initiating the failure. The rapidity with which I was thrown out, without any advance warning of failure...impels me to again...discourage aerobatics which may encourage unskilled pilots to get into speed ranges and attitudes which are dangerous to them and their airplanes."

Cordially,

William R. Bayne
.____|-(o)-|____.
(Copyright 2010)

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On Mar 6, 2010, at 21:22, Ed Burkhead wrote:


But what CAUSED negative g-load sufficiently strong to break the spar in a
negative g manner and eject the seat/pilot/passenger out of the plane?

I cannot imagine a pilot with the experience and ratings listed doing a
barrel roll or pushing negative g's close to the ground, over civilization
(the golf course).

I could, maybe, understand a high speed low pass with a sudden pull-up.
I've seen this done perhaps a hundred times at various Coupe flyins. May I
say CLEARLY that I think this is a BAD IDEA.

Any plane with slop in its control system can get surprise control surface flutter when it encounters an airspeed and load combination that allows a resonant vibration to get going. I had that happen to me and am very, very glad that I reacted correctly and almost instantly (turned the yoke to load the aileron control system and pulled [with moderation] up to slow down).

I'm not any kind of genius pilot. In retrospect, I think I must have been thinking about flutter and been alert for it as I did my power-glide to see
what 144 mph felt like - only that would explain how I diagnosed the
vibration and did the right thing so quickly.

You'd better believe I got my control system tightened up to specifications
after that and never again tried to power-glide up toward 144 mph!!!!

The NTSB probable cause report mentions nothing about flutter being involved in the accident chain other than repeating the quote from the ATP pilot who said he observed both ailerons fluttering. I wish they'd addressed this -
but, I suspect they just had nothing solid to go on.

To me, vibration sufficient to shake the rear windows out of the plane,
knock the inspection hole covers off the plane and shake PAINT CHIPS off the
plane might, just possibly, be important.

I'd urge everyone to do the checks necessary to see if your control systems
are within specs.

And, please, don't show off by doing a dive down to a high speed pass with
or without a sudden pull-up at the end.

JMHO

Ed Burkhead



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Hi Craig,

You make an excellent point.  They may well have MEANT that
"cross-sectional strength" was reduced by 10% using "design code"
practices.

But what they SAID was that the "cross-sectional AREA of the top spar
cap" was reduced by 10%!  On that basis that I deemed the COMMENT
"utter nonsense".  Professionals should express clear and accurate
findings in any accident report.

The NTSB seems to conclude that aerodynamic stresses substantially
exceeding applicable design criteria preceded the observed catastrophic structural failure of subject wing and spar assembly such that even had
the "extra" hole not been drilled the structure would have likely
failed in much the same way with unchanged result.  If the possible
reduction in "cross-sectional strength" from this one non-factory hole
was dwarfed by the structural design load safety factor, no one would
bother to "do the calculations".

Regards,

WRB

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On Mar 6, 2010, at 14:39, craig wrote:

The 10% figure probably came from  design codes. Any hole no matter
how small and the design codes say that you must at a MINIMUM deduct
10% of the structural strength of the metal. In any case if you drill
more holes you would have to do the calculations to determine how much
tensile strength remains.ie, drill enough holes and you could end up
with NO tensile strength left.

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