Hi Bob,

Interesting experience!  We will be removing the prop next week (along with 
additional investigation) when my AP has time to work on my Coupe.

Thanks,
David
N95CV

--- In [email protected], "BobD  KSVE" <bevbob...@...> wrote:
>
> David,
> When I bought my coupe N3047H, it had a bad vibration.  After doing what you 
> are doing, motor mounts, clearances, engine stuff, dynamic balancing, we 
> removed the prop and took it to a prop shop.  They promptly red tagged it!!  
> (someone had drilled a couple of extra holes in the back of the hub)
> 
> A new prop and dynamic balance and empty wallet later and I could finally 
> make out the writing on the gauge faces while flying.
> Bob D.
> 1946 415E N3047 "Honey"
> Susanville, CA
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "drdlhammond" <drdlhammond@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi John,
> > 
> > How can I/we tell if the rubber motor mounts are bad???  The AP thought 
> > they looked normal (i.e. compared to others he had replaced).  His torque 
> > wrench was "validated" about 1-2 months prior to my job (he questioned both 
> > the 60 inch pounds - too tight - and his wrench but a second, older wrench 
> > was almost identical).  Should we further tighten the mounting bolts?
> > 
> > Both magnetos checked good during the March annual and both have been 
> > acting "normally" since (i.e. no difference has been noted during engine 
> > run up prior to take off).  Yes, the right exhaust pipe vibrates enough to 
> > touch the cowling at its exit hole (has since I bought the plane a little 
> > over 2 years ago).  Otherwise, we have not found anything that touches the 
> > cowling.  I will pass along the suggestion to check for valve spring and 
> > lifter malfunctions.
> > 
> > The engine vibration reminds me of the old K&B 0.35 nitro/methane/castor 
> > oil model airplane engines we used in the late '60s and early '70s.  These 
> > engines were mass produced and inexpensive.  Regardless of how well the 
> > prop was balanced, they vibrated!  At the time, older modelers told me 
> > these engines were not internally "balanced" and thus their vibration.  How 
> > much engine vibration is "normal" for a 43 year old 4 cylinder 4 stroke 
> > engine???
> > 
> > Thanks for your input!
> > 
> > David
> > N95CV
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], John Cooper <john@> wrote:
> > >
> > > On 8/14/2010 10:32 AM, drdlhammond wrote:
> > > > We could NOT tighten the mounting bolts to the prescribed 60 inch 
> > > > pounds (we had metal to metal contact between the engine and the 
> > > > mount). At 45 inch pounds there was very little clearance so we 
> > > > settled on 40 inch pounds.
> > > 
> > > OK, there's something wrong there.  Bad rubbers, bad torque wrench???
> > > 
> > > Once that's corrected, there are many possible causes of vibration. 
> > > How's your mag check?  Any baffles, exhaust or intake parts touching the 
> > > cowl?  Broken valve springs? Bad lifters?....
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > John Cooper
> > > Skyport East
> > > www.skyportservices.net
> > >
> >
>


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