I was trying to avoid having a truck full of hot peroxide
that sounds like a "Bad Thing"TM perhaps a line heater mebe? and the 80C
number was just something I pulled out of my ass to fill in a blank.

I was under the impression from Armadillo that for them at least the ambient
temperature of their peroxide was affecting their entire run not just the
start.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Randall Clague" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "ERPS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 4:15 AM
Subject: [ERPS] Peroxide tank heating


> On Sat, 2 Nov 2002 00:15:54 +1100, "Jake Anderson"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >what i was also implying is if you did it 10 minutes before launch
(assuming
> >you have a decent volume of peroxide/fuel onboard) it wouldnt make much
of a
> >difference to the temperature at launch time (if you have an 80deg(C)
load
> >of liquid its not going to cool to a level that makes a big difference in
10
> >minutes
> >or worst case heat it over what you want at launch
> >then let it cool off to the point you wish to launch at then hit the
button
>
> 80 C?  Ack!  I'm not going anywhere peroxide at 80 C.  Our upper limit
> for working temperature is 50 C.
>
> My thinking was just to keep the peroxide from freezing.  The same
> heater could be used to keep it warm, I suppose.  But in either case,
> letting it cool imposes an operating restriction - the worst kind,
> time pressure - which I like to avoid if at all possible.
>
> This starts to make more sense the more I think about it.  Hold some
> defined temperature in the peroxide tank and in the plumbing.  Running
> above it up to 50 C would be OK.  Performance could be calculated
> based on peroxide temperature, and this would go into the pilot's
> pre-flight checklist.  Cargo hatch secure, check.  Peroxide loaded,
> check.  Peroxide tank secure, check.  Enough performance to fly the
> mission with x margin, check.
>
> >also a rather small heater in/under the tank just to maintain the
> >temperature would be lighter and have less of an impact on stuff if you
> >didnt mind a long warm-up time
>
> It would kept at the desired temperature in the peroxide truck, so you
> wouldn't need to warm it up in the vehicle, just keep it from cooling
> off.  A small heater would be fine for that.
>
> -R
>
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> 'What could go wrong?'"
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