Randall Clague wrote:
> David Weinshenker wrote:
> > Does the CATS world count? :)
> It was a good technical goal for amateur rocketry. In hindsight,
> something that didn't require AST involvement might have been better
> suited to the amateur rocketry mindset.

Also, I'm not sure that the "prize" structure of the whole affair was 
a good idea...  rocket folks seem (IMHO) to be rather insular and secretive 
in general, and setting it all up as a "contest" tended to exacerbate that.

> > (I think I pretty much missed out on most of the publicity and politics
> > of that whole business - IIRC the prize was in the process of expiring,
> > unclaimed, around the time I first got involved with ERPS.)
> 
> You had good timing.  It was not a pleasant experience.  ERPS got
> involved for a while, with Black Adder, a one and a half stage UGLV.

1-1/2 stages? How was that to have worked? You weren't going to use
the Atlas configuration and drop off some engines as a tankless "partial 
stage", were you?

> We can thank AST for getting us out of that mess: when we got the 28
> pages of instructions for how to apply for a waiver, we canceled the
> project.

So it was a "mess" even before the compliance burden became apparent?

-dave w
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