What about Fixed: neither its existence nor its type may be changed? Although I'd prefer to control Deletable separately from Fixed, because I'd love to see a delete added to get and set for properties.
On 21 Aug, 2008, at 7:37 AM, Neil Mix wrote: > writable: can be written to > enumerable: can be enumerated > flexible: can be flexed? > > how about configurable? > > On Aug 20, 2008, at 5:31 PM, Allen Wirfs-Brock wrote: > >>> From: Brendan Eich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:25 AM >> [snip] >>> >>> Hi Allen, could you remind me and a few others who were wondering >>> yesterday (sorry I don't remember -- it's in minutes, somewhere) why >>> [[Deletable]] was not chosen instead of [[Flexible]]? Thanks. >> >> >> The reason for not using "deletable" was originally explained in the >> message below. I believe that at one of the phone meetings after >> Oslo we briefly discussed changing it back to "dynamic" or possibly >> something else but the consensus was to stick with "flexible". >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:es3.x-discuss- >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allen Wirfs-Brock >>> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 1:39 PM >>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] x-discuss; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> es4- >>> discuss >>> Subject: RE: "dynamic" attribute nomenclature >>> >>> At today's ES 3.1 conference call (see >>> http://wiki.ecmascript.org/doku.php?id=meetings:minutes_jun_24_2008) >>> we agreed to use the term "Flexible" for the property attribute that >>> we recently had been calling "Dynamic" and which subsumes the >>> DontDelete attribute. >>> >>> From: Allen Wirfs-Brock >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 10:37 AM >>> To: Lars Hansen; Mark S. Miller >>> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] x-discuss >>> Subject: "dynamic" attribute nomenclature >>> >>> In Lars's feedback on the the June 11, ES3.1 draft he said: >>> >>> p26 8.6.1. (And throughout the spec) The meaning of "dynamic" in >>> ES4 >>> is something else (it means a non-fixture property). It would >>> probably >>> reduce confusion if the property name Deletable were used here, as I >>> though we had agreed previously. >>> >>> Dynamic as currently used in ES3.1 means more than just Deletable, >>> it >>> also means that the property attributes (including the Dynamic >>> attribute) can be modified and that it can be transformed between >>> being a data and procedural property. Hence, the name Deletable >>> seems >>> to imply something too narrow. >>> >>> Playing around with the thesaurus, the best "positive, active term >>> that >>> I could find that seems to be a reasonable description of this >>> semantics is: >>> Alterable >>> >>> (other, perhaps less satisfy or otherwise unacceptable alternatives >>> include: changeable, mutable, modifiable, flexible, amendable) >>> >>> Note this would mean that data properties would expose properties >>> named Writable and Alterable. My sense is that there is enough >>> conceptual distance between those terms that there won't be too >>> much >>> confusion. >>> >>> Thoughts?? >> _______________________________________________ >> Es-discuss mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/es-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > Es-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/es-discuss _______________________________________________ Es-discuss mailing list [email protected] https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/es-discuss

