Agreed there are use-cases for second-class methods, according to style and 
taste.

The impetus for __noSuchMethod__ when I implemented it in 2003 was to support 
the Smalltalk-based TIBET framework of Bill Edney and Scott Shattuck. They 
religiously use a Smalltalk style of JS so do not feel any second-class pain.

Other styles of JS would definitely feel pain. One size does not fit all.

This is why rejecting an invoke trap is not a matter of black and white, IMHO 
-- it's simply a desire to reduce complexity and see how the result can be used 
by a library (a standard one, even) to implement something like 
__noSuchMethod__.

/be

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dmitry Soshnikov" <[email protected]>
To: "es-discuss" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 5:48:37 AM
Subject: noSuchMethod: "funargs" + "invoke-only-phantoms"


Hi, 

Here is the analysis of current "noSuchMethod" situation implemented via 
proxies. 

I summarized that never-ending thread from 2010 ( 
https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/es-discuss/2010-October/011929.html ), since 
guys in JS community started to ask why proxies don't support noSuchMethod. 

It's written as a small article in a view of JS-code: 
https://gist.github.com/1481018 

Is there something to add? To change probably in the current Tom's proposal? 
Etc. 

P.S.: while I was writing the article, I started more to agree on importance of 
the "extracted funargs" in this case, however the "invoke-only-phantom" methods 
still and also (as it turns out) are needed to users and required by them. 

Cheers, 
Dmitry. 

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