Yep, no doubt, first-class "missed" methods win -- again, because the programmer can and has the complete right (by just looking at one line of a code) to rewrite simple invoke to `apply' (she don't have to think whether it's a virtual method or not).
The only thing I wanted is to reduce broken consequences. Well, or at least to be aware about them ;) Dmitry. On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:32 PM, Brendan Eich <[email protected]> wrote: > Agreed there are use-cases for second-class methods, according to style > and taste. > > The impetus for __noSuchMethod__ when I implemented it in 2003 was to > support the Smalltalk-based TIBET framework of Bill Edney and Scott > Shattuck. They religiously use a Smalltalk style of JS so do not feel any > second-class pain. > > Other styles of JS would definitely feel pain. One size does not fit all. > > This is why rejecting an invoke trap is not a matter of black and white, > IMHO -- it's simply a desire to reduce complexity and see how the result > can be used by a library (a standard one, even) to implement something like > __noSuchMethod__. > > /be > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dmitry Soshnikov" <[email protected]> > To: "es-discuss" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 5:48:37 AM > Subject: noSuchMethod: "funargs" + "invoke-only-phantoms" > > > Hi, > > Here is the analysis of current "noSuchMethod" situation implemented via > proxies. > > I summarized that never-ending thread from 2010 ( > https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/es-discuss/2010-October/011929.html ), > since guys in JS community started to ask why proxies don't support > noSuchMethod. > > It's written as a small article in a view of JS-code: > https://gist.github.com/1481018 > > Is there something to add? To change probably in the current Tom's > proposal? Etc. > > P.S.: while I was writing the article, I started more to agree on > importance of the "extracted funargs" in this case, however the > "invoke-only-phantom" methods still and also (as it turns out) are needed > to users and required by them. > > Cheers, > Dmitry. > > _______________________________________________ > es-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/es-discuss >
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