I agree and find the add/remove pairing to be winning compared to
add/delete. It dodges the ES3 issue. I'd go for pithy over verb-noun-y
any day, so clear > deleteAll. Please, y'all, save us from Java-esque
logorrhea!
/be
Dean Landolt wrote:
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 8:58 AM, Kevin Smith <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Not to backtrack the conversation, but I'm not convinced that
"delete" should be used to remove an element. Noone's going to
ask me, "how do I delete an element from the set?". They're going
to ask me, "how do I remove an element?".
That's a good point. Just like noone's going to ask "how do I put an
element".
add : remove :: put : delete
Also, I'm currently suspicious of any parallels between deleting
a property and removing an element from a set. The whole point of
Set and Map is to provide a collection abstraction independent of
javascript's object model (so as to end the confusion that arises
from their conflation), correct?
This is a good argument in favor of "clear" as well. You never really
want to "clear" a typical object, it only really makes sense in the
context of collections.
Plus, syntax-ignorant tokenizers (like the highlighter on the
proposal page) are going to make delete look pretty weird : )
khs
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Michael A. Smith
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
+1 on clear() as it's pithy, understandable, and behaves the
same in
Java and Python.
What real benefit comes from drawing this connection between
delete()
and deleteAll()? I suspect the everyday programmer won't care,
and the
ones who do will look it up.
-Michael A. Smith
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 1:47 AM, Mark S. Miller
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> clear() is ok. Also, java.util.Map and java.util.Set use
clear() so it would
> also be familiar to many people.
>
> Perhaps deleteAll() would be more mnemonic, as its
relationship with
> delete() would be obvious?
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 10:39 PM, Adam Shannon
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>> I'd agree with using clear() and isEmpty() with their
respective actions.
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 00:37, Brendan Eich
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> > Good idea, but I suggest an unambiguous verb instead of an
>> > adjective-or-verb: clear.
>> >
>> > "empty" is often used for the predicate, in naming
conventions that
>> > eschew
>> > "isEmpty" and "emptyp" patterns.
>> >
>> > /be
>> >
>> >
>> > Peter Michaux wrote:
>> >>
>> >> If some piece of code needs to empty a set, it would be
good to do
>> >> that in a single call
>> >>
>> >> set.empty();
>> >>
>> >> Otherwise we might be left doing the following which
could be very
>> >> inefficient.
>> >>
>> >> set.forEach(function(element) {
>> >> set['delete'](element);
>> >> });
>> >>
>> >> Peter
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