On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Kevin Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
> Again, the entire point of maximally-minimal classes was to be as >> simple as possible while still providing something useful (which they >> succeeded at), and to remain friendly to becoming more complicated in >> the future (also succeeded!). >> > > Even if maximally minimal classes could make it into ES6, why not try to > make a complete syntax (and model) now? We've come this far... > > Do you disagree with any of the four points that I made? > What you're missing is the history. Do you think that your proposal is so much more compelling than the several which have come before? Don't get me wrong - I don't think its bad. I'm not trying to belittle it, I'm trying to get you to see why Max-min is more than something half-baked. What's wrong with this one <http://wiki.ecmascript.org/doku.php?id=harmony:classes> or this one <http://wiki.ecmascript.org/doku.php?id=strawman:classes_as_sugar> or this one <https://gist.github.com/1332193>? You probably have your reasons, and other people have the same type of problems with yours. I think the biggest problem with getting classes into JS is because it is beyond the point where a single visionary language designer can just step in and make the decision. Classes are just one of those things hairy enough that consensus is just so challenging. The question we should be asking is, "Assuming we went with max-min or something like it, why would future decisions be any easier than they are now." I say that if something like max-min is the only way to get classes into the hands of users, that is an important accomplishment. JS is taking the IMHO smart approach of paving the cowpaths. Max-min certainly paves a well worn and important cowpath instead of treading too far into new territory. After its paved, and we get other things in the mix like private names, and turn people loose, new cowpaths will form that build from what we've got. Then we'll have a clearer picture of the best route to take next. If we keep going around looking for a complete solution, nothing will happen, now cowpath will be paved, and we really won't be closer for ES7. That is what I fear the most. - Russ > > kevin > > _______________________________________________ > es-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/es-discuss > >
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