On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Kevin Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
> What you're missing is the history. >> > > Russell, that's not fair. I've been listening for quite a while and I've > combed through the archives. I've poured over each of the proposals that > you've mentioned. You're assuming that I'm some kind of newbie because I > dissent? > > I knew this post might be unpopular, but I'm trying to help and I have > something to say. Don't shut me down just because I'm not stepping in line. > I'm not assuming you're a newbie. Heck, I consider myself a newbie. Perhaps I'm just jaded. Two weeks ago, I had hope that max-min would get us something. Now I'm feeling less hopeful. New class proposals going in the other direction feels like going in the circles. We need to address the consensus gap more directly. Regarding your proposal specifically, this is what I see: Arbitrary prototype properties is surely to draw fire. It can be a foot-gun and might conflict with instance properties in the future. Adding support for statics is probably less controversial. In truth, I think its the only real difference between max-min and David Herman's min classes. However, that means if we take out arbitrary prototype properties, we're back to a proposal which also hasn't reached consensus. As for your fourth, most controversial point, separating call and constructor would diverge from the existing pattern. Number() and new Number() always call the same function. My opinion on whether or not its a good idea doesn't even factor in. I want classes. I don't see this feature being even remotely possible to consensus. If we get consensus on something, I would love to debate more controversial features. I'm not trying to shut you down. I just really want classes to happen, even if in the most minimal form. I apologize if I seem dismissive, I just don't see it as being the most productive way of getting there. - Russ
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