I've never said unshadowable ... I am saying that `global` should be a
global reference to the global object which is mentioned in ES6/2015 but
it's not specified how it should be referenced. `window` is not welcome
even in DOM tools like browserify, `global` is ubiquitous in its meaning,
it does not confuse anyone like a `self` in node.js or others would do, and
it will solve forever the hassle of referencing *by deafault* a global
object without needing to eval, Function('return this'), [].sort(), or
whatever wizardy you coudl came up to retrieve and/or reference the global
object.It's deadly simple: whatever freedom implementors have to put window and/or self in, they MUST put a `global` reference too ... that will make everything else redundant, in the long term, and not vice-versa Is this really that complicated to ship? On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Mark S. Miller <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 8:39 AM, Andrea Giammarchi < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> also `eval` can be in-scope redefined as much as global, window, or self, >> so no, that's actually not a solution. >> >> Btw, I wasn't asking for a workaround, I was proposing to officially >> bring ES 2015 `global` object as language reference in ES7/201X >> > > In an unshadowable manner? Never gonna happen. Everything that provides > authority must be virtualizable. > > > >> >> It's a very tiny improvement for every developer benefit ( 8.5 + 14.1 >> millions of results in Github for `typeof global` apparently got unnoticed ) >> >> On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 4:33 PM, Andrea Giammarchi < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> it's a no-go under CSP so it's as bad as `Function('return this')()` >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Boris Zbarsky <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> On 4/17/15 11:27 AM, Mark S. Miller wrote: >>>> >>>>> (1,eval)('"use strict"; this') >>>>> >>>> >>>> This has the drawback of making eyes bleed, but the benefit of working >>>> reliably (unlike "window", "self", or "global").... ;) >>>> >>>> -Boris >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> es-discuss mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/es-discuss >>>> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> es-discuss mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/es-discuss >> >> > > > -- > Cheers, > --MarkM >
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