On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 9:05 AM, Andrea Giammarchi < [email protected]> wrote:
> I've never said unshadowable ... > You did: On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 8:39 AM, Andrea Giammarchi < [email protected]> wrote: > also `eval` can be in-scope redefined as much as global, window, or self, > so no, that's actually not a solution. > > I am saying that `global` should be a global reference to the global > object which is mentioned in ES6/2015 but it's not specified how it should > be referenced. `window` is not welcome even in DOM tools like browserify, > `global` is ubiquitous in its meaning, it does not confuse anyone like a > `self` in node.js or others would do, and it will solve forever the hassle > of referencing *by deafault* a global object without needing to eval, > Function('return this'), [].sort(), or whatever wizardy you coudl came up > to retrieve and/or reference the global object. > > It's deadly simple: whatever freedom implementors have to put window > and/or self in, they MUST put a `global` reference too ... that will make > everything else redundant, in the long term, and not vice-versa > > Is this really that complicated to ship? > > On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Mark S. Miller <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> >> On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 8:39 AM, Andrea Giammarchi < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> also `eval` can be in-scope redefined as much as global, window, or >>> self, so no, that's actually not a solution. >>> >>> Btw, I wasn't asking for a workaround, I was proposing to officially >>> bring ES 2015 `global` object as language reference in ES7/201X >>> >> >> In an unshadowable manner? Never gonna happen. Everything that provides >> authority must be virtualizable. >> >> >> >>> >>> It's a very tiny improvement for every developer benefit ( 8.5 + 14.1 >>> millions of results in Github for `typeof global` apparently got unnoticed ) >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 4:33 PM, Andrea Giammarchi < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> it's a no-go under CSP so it's as bad as `Function('return this')()` >>>> >>>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Boris Zbarsky <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 4/17/15 11:27 AM, Mark S. Miller wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> (1,eval)('"use strict"; this') >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This has the drawback of making eyes bleed, but the benefit of working >>>>> reliably (unlike "window", "self", or "global").... ;) >>>>> >>>>> -Boris >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> es-discuss mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/es-discuss >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> es-discuss mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/es-discuss >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> --MarkM >> > > -- Cheers, --MarkM
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