On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 10:06 AM, Claude Pache <claude.pa...@gmail.com>
wrote:

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> Le 4 févr. 2016 à 17:47, John Lenz <concavel...@gmail.com> a écrit :
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> [...]
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> Waldemar's example makes the problem obvious but I think we could do use,
> which I think is preferable to the proposed:
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> .?
> (?)
> [?]
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> Yes, that syntax is possible. Whether it is preferable is a question of
> taste. Personally, I don’t like it:
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> * I slightly prefer `?.` over `.?` for the following reason: The `?.`
> token may be conceptually separated in two, first the question mark which
> checks whether the expression at its left evaluates to null/undefined (and
> orders to stop processing if it is the case); then the dot which proceeds
> with property lookup.
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>
* I find that the question mark inside the brackets is out of place, as it
> isn’t part of the arguments (for function call) or of the expression
> defining the key (for property access).
>

I agree with this but I think I would get used to ".?", etc.   "?.(" and
"?.[" are awkward, and longer (and harder to type).  ".?" "(?" and "[?"
would parse easily, are short


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>> [...]
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> yes, I meant the equivalent to:
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> x ?: value
> x == null ? x : value
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> I assume you meant: `x != null ? x : value`
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haha, yes


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> Note that this is a completely different operator. For the proposed
> optional chaining operator, we stop processing when the LHS is
> null/undefined; while for the `?:` null-coalescing operator, it is the
> other way round. Also, the precedence is not the same.
>
> I have wilfully restricted the scope of my proposal to optional chaining
> only, because of its intrinsic technical complexity.
>

sure.  that is very reasonable.


>
> —Claude
>
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