As a data point -- I was writing JavaScript applications with GPSEE, a server-side Spidermonkey embedding, for several years until recently. The design pattern was, for all intents and purposes, CGI.
GPSEE has E4X capability. I used it a few times to generate xhtml documents. I never found a compelling application. Being able to use XML object literals honestly caused more problems than it solved. If I really needed XML interchange today, I would try really hard to represent it internally with javascript objects and render/parse it at the network boundary. The only two things I ever found useful in E4X was template strings (which we have in ES6 backticks now) and for each. Wes On Tue, 21 May 2019 at 19:58, Jacob Pratt <[email protected]> wrote: > JSX doesn't necessarily need a vDOM. > > On Tue, May 21, 2019, 10:31 kai zhu <[email protected]> wrote: > >> jsx is not terribly javascripty ... vs direct manipulation of the dom >> (using static-functions/handlers). >> >> it requires two extra ux-workflow transformations -- 1) transpilation and >> 2) virtual-dom manipulation, for the sake of oft-quoted faster >> dom-performance, which some like me are skeptical is true in modern >> browsers. >> >> -kai >> >> >> On Tue, May 21, 2019, 16:35 Andrea Giammarchi < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> People use JSX, which is basically E4X, so I'd argue the word useless is >>> not really appropriate. You can use E4X to produce HTML, the fact we're >>> talking XML is merely about the E4X background, but as you could produce >>> strings out of E4X you could do the same and have better templating out of >>> the box. >>> >>> But like I've said, I already use template literal tags, but those >>> strings don't get hints or highlights as if these were E4X, XML, or plain >>> HTML, which is the only cool thing I'd personally find useful. >>> >>> Maybe it's just a tooling issue though. >>> >>> On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 3:06 PM ViliusCreator < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> > the client, it could still somehow shine in NodeJS though. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The only way it can shine is only passing HTML objects as arg to >>>> website. That’s it. And still, you can use string to do that for you. >>>> People already use JSON and I don’t think they would use XML in Node js. >>>> There are already tons of libs for XML stuff, yet they don’t have a lot of >>>> downloads, as far as I remember. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> So basically, Node js doesn’t need XML. That would be useless. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> es-discuss mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/es-discuss >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> es-discuss mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/es-discuss >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> es-discuss mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/es-discuss >> > _______________________________________________ > es-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/es-discuss > -- Wesley W. Garland Director, Product Development PageMail, Inc. +1 613 542 2787 x 102
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