Python is so broadly used in those fields due to good library support, not just ease of language use. But since that discussion is pretty off-topic, I'll leave it there.
On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 21:33 Ed Saleh <med...@outlook.com> wrote: > I don't see any reason why Python is widely used in math and science, and > specially AI, other than this reason. It's easy to write and prototype in. > ------------------------------ > *From:* Jordan Harband <ljh...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Saturday, November 2, 2019 9:23:31 PM > *To:* Ed Saleh <med...@outlook.com> > *Cc:* Bergi <a.d.be...@web.de>; es-discuss <es-discuss@mozilla.org>; kai > zhu <kaizhu...@gmail.com> > > *Subject:* Re: Optional Curly Braces in JavaScript > > I don’t think the obstacle to JavaScript becoming more widespread is > mandatory curly braces, nor do i think any part of python’s popularity is > due to optional curly braces. > > Separately, how are you measuring “widespread”? One measurement might be, > for example, “how many computers is it used on”, and web browsers dwarf > most everything else :-) > > On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 6:02 PM Ed Saleh <med...@outlook.com> wrote: > > Hi Kai Zhu, > We can enforce curly braces through "good practice" JavaScript > documentation style and eslint style. Making braceless JavaScript feature > doesn't make it the best style to use, it just give more flexibility. And > yes Jordan, it should actually be enforced to use curly braces in actual > coding and that's what I do personally. All I want I want is to see > JavaScript as wide spread as Python is. I know the reason why Python is > famous today is for this specific reason, as it's easy to write for all > types of people. > > Thank you all, > ------------------------------ > *From:* es-discuss <es-discuss-boun...@mozilla.org> on behalf of kai zhu < > kaizhu...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Saturday, November 2, 2019 8:06:50 PM > *To:* Jordan Harband <ljh...@gmail.com> > *Cc:* Bergi <a.d.be...@web.de>; es-discuss <es-discuss@mozilla.org> > *Subject:* Re: Optional Curly Braces in JavaScript > > unlike python, many [client-side] javascript programs require > rollup/minification into a single dist-file. removing curly braces (just > like asi) makes that task more difficult. > > this is also why esm-import-statements were a terrible idea. ppl like me > would argue frontend-programs (which are mostly non-reusable anyways) > should be written as single dist-files from the start rather than as > modules -- and why python-programmers make terrible [frontend/ux] > javascript-programmers in general. > > > On Sun, Nov 3, 2019, 04:48 Jordan Harband <ljh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > My preference would be to make them required in the places they're > currently optional :-) > > Optional curly braces have led to many bugs, not just in JS (the "goto > fail" SSL bug, for example) - why is this risk worth making it easier to > write code on a whiteboard, where it doesn't need to be valid anyways? > > On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 12:39 PM Bergi <a.d.be...@web.de> wrote: > > Hello Ed! > > > That would make JavaScript an easy to write on board language, where a > language like python dominates because of it's simplicity in writing. This > would make JavaScript spread into more areas in science, education and > engineering. > > You seem to not only want to make block syntax optional, but rather make > whitespace indentation significant. You might want to have a look at > CoffeeScript <http://coffeescript.org/#language> which is a > compile-to-JS language that uses this concept. Its function syntax is a > bit different from what you imagined though, most importantly it doesn't > offer any declarations. > > kind regards, > Bergi > _______________________________________________ > es-discuss mailing list > es-discuss@mozilla.org > https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/es-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > es-discuss mailing list > es-discuss@mozilla.org > https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/es-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > es-discuss mailing list > es-discuss@mozilla.org > https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/es-discuss > -- ----- Isiah Meadows cont...@isiahmeadows.com www.isiahmeadows.com
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