Hi Claire and all members. You had traveled Seoul. Those couple was very kind person. You are a welcome guest. As you speaking, Korea is growing continue. We have many fame spot. For example, JeJu Island, WhanSeon lime cave, Seoul city, etc.
Korean people try for the speaking english well, but many Koreans does not speak english well. because They have been STUDYING english like TOEIC/TOEFL TEST since they were student. This is conflict situation. I would like to guide for foreigner at least one time. But I am not accustomed to speaking in english yet. I guess you live in China, isn't it? Thank you for your answer. Have a good time. On 6월8일, 오후8시35분, claire <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi John Edward Charles Josney Oshiro Pablo and all, > > Yes,Edward,I met the kind and helpful Korean couple in Seoul in 1991! > The Korean man was a painter/artist and his wife was a Taiwanese. > > After we met,they kindly invited us to go by train with them to their > city,Tachung(did I spell it right?). > They helped us check in a yuokuan(?)because we couldn't speak any > Korean and most Koreans then didn't speak any English at all...:( > So with their advice and help,we could set out on an excursion nearby > on our own every morning and went back to their house every evening to > share our exotic experiences with them over dinner table! > > I wish we could revisit Korea with our children! But it was a pity we > lost touch with that unforgetable couple!:( > > Seoul must have changed a lot since our last visit.I was very > impressed by the modern,neat and well-organised city landscape. > The most amazing part for me was the underground > bars,restaurants,boutiques,CD shops,bookstores and etc which lasted > for kilometres in Seoul! > How nice it is to spend time there in winter when the oudoor > temperature is at least minus 10!;) > > Hi John, > I also think it's fair to say that every province in China is like a > different country. > I am saying it because for example,in USA or France,it's much the same > thing that people and food vary from north to south and east to west. > Foreigners who learned Chinese told me that they had a hard time > understanding Chinese people's Chinese because they spoke with a > strong accent from their own dialect!:( > > Hi Charles, > 'Mischievious' isn't necessarily a bad word. > It means 'fond of having fun in a rather naughty way.';) > > Pln likes to pull our leg sometimes,and it's no harm done,isn't it? > You just ask Pablo,Anu,Andre Barbosa or Oshiro. > Am I right,guys?LOL > > Take care and great week ahead of us all! > Claire > On Jun 8, 11:09 am, Edward <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Hi Pln, Claire, Charles, John and all members. > > > Pln, I know TED conference, too. It is very fast speaking english. but > > Subject is good. > > I have got variety information about presentation skill or it's > > subject. > > I can't see like TED in Korea. It can view only by ipod. > > > Claire, Did you meet Korean couple? > > Chinese alphabet are semantic symbols, and Korean alphabet is a > > phonetic symbol. > > Korean language is one of the particular language. > > But when I see the foreigner who speak Korean well, > > I think that my learning method is not proper. > > > Charles, Do you live in China? China is one of the very large nation. > > I traveled Hong Kong and Macau, but did not traveled the mainland. > > All things have big scale in China. > > > John, Do you live in China, too? > > I heard it as you explained about kind of Chinese languages. > > > Good night. > > > On 6월7일, 오전10시24분, John Awesome <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > since I am a chinese, I'd like to say something, in the large country, we > > > have different customs and culture in different provinces, and even > > > different languages. In canton, they speak cantonese, which can not be > > > understand by us, the difference in speaking as large as those between > > > english and german. and i argee with claire, i dont think we dont have the > > > same customs, which can be found and described easily. we have over 1 > > > billion people, u can not use few words to describe such a large group of > > > people > > > > 2009/6/7 claire <[email protected]> > > > > > Hi Edward Charles Pln John and all members new and old,;) > > > > > Edward,how coincidental that during our last group chat this > > > > Wednesday,Briana and I were talking about how difficult it is to read > > > > Arabic,Sanskrit,Chinese and Korean! > > > > I told her once,much to my disappointment,my letter to a Korean couple > > > > was sent back to me. > > > > Perhaps it was because I didn't copy their address well in Korean...:( > > > > > You're absolutely right that English is very different from Korean,and > > > > that's why it's so much more difficult for orientals like > > > > Koreans,Japanese,Chinese or Taiwanese to be good at English! > > > > > However,in spite of their disadvantages,they've managed to dominate > > > > the world high-tech markets of computer,mobile phone or home > > > > entertainment adjacencies,let alone the car market,haven't they? > > > > > So allow me to use a mission statement of Nike(or maybe some other > > > > brand?): > > > > Impossible is nothing!;) > > > > > And Charles, > > > > I wish I was a professor! > > > > I think I understand what you try to say here as China is a big > > > > country consist of 36 provinces,(am I correct with this number?)it's > > > > not possible to generalize their customs or public behaviours,is it? > > > > Besides,people in big cities like Beijing,Shanghai or Shengen(did I > > > > spell it right?) have to be much more modernized than people in other > > > > rural or remote areas,haven't they? > > > > > Yes,Globalization brings wealth to quite a few developing > > > > countries,but on the other hand,it also exploits them with worse wages > > > > and poorer working conditions... > > > > > Good night, > > > > Claire > > > > On Jun 6, 10:45 am, Charles <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Hi Claire, > > > > > > I guess you are a professor because of your writing skill and > > > > thinking.Nice > > > > > to meet you. > > > > > > About the culture things,I don't have too much to say.You know,this is > > > > not > > > > > my field.I am still in trouble with the presents,gifts and drinks > > > > > things > > > > in > > > > > China,even though I have already lived here for many years. > > > > > > The culture here is little confusing.With same age educated friends,we > > > > have > > > > > fun together and don't care culture too much.With people who is older > > > > than > > > > > us,showing some respects will be OK.Certainly,having some presents is > > > > > better. Also,there is a huge difference between in city and in rural. > > > > > > As the globalization going,People adore high-tech and business.We get > > > > worths > > > > > in business and better live in high-tech. > > > > > > 2009/6/6 Edward <[email protected]> > > > > > > > Hello everybody. > > > > > > Hello Charles and Claire.. > > > > > > > Thank you for your question and an opinion. > > > > > > > I think that culture is very important to learn english, > > > > > > Because English and others(Korean) are different from language > > > > > > family > > > > > > and culture. > > > > > > > It was for the last several years that Foreigners increased rapidly > > > > > > into Korea. > > > > > > Our World is small But I'm not speak english well. so I try to learn > > > > > > english. > > > > > > > I like this ESL Podcast groups. > > > > > > > Have a good time. > > > > > > > Edward Park. > > > > > > > On 6월6일, 오전6시46분, claire <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Hello Elham Charles Edward John and all other shy members,;) > > > > > > > > It's always nice to see new or silent members finally speak up!LOL > > > > > > > They always make me day,and I'm sure Pln,Pablo and Ed will share > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > feelings,as well!;) > > > > > > > > Charles,it's very nice of you to have brought this question up: > > > > > > > Why should we think about this kind of questions?;) > > > > > > > > When you realize and witness the world is very much influenced by > > > > > > > American or Japanese culture(in Asia),is it a good sign? > > > > > > > > Is there anything we can do to stop it or the GLOBALIZATION? > > > > > > > > Every nation has its own identity which is their own > > > > culture,sometimes > > > > > > > they may fear that their culture is under threat of a more > > > > > > > powerful > > > > > > > nation... > > > > > > > And they may consider it as a cultural crisis! > > > > > > > Then at a time like this,you will find Q1 is quite important as > > > > > > > how a > > > > > > > culture is created or cultivated... > > > > > > > > As for Q2,it's all about business or social protocol. > > > > > > > I asked the question because I thought this group is the ideal > > > > > > > place > > > > > > > for me to gather the 1st hand information from members from all > > > > > > > over > > > > > > > the world!!! > > > > > > > It's much more fun than to get it from some site called executive > > > > > > > planet for me! > > > > > > > > Last week,I was asked by an European businessman who was about to > > > > > > > go > > > > > > > on a business trip to China: > > > > > > > a) What presents to buy for my Chinese suppliers or contacts? > > > > > > > b) Should I give the gift to them before or after the deal? > > > > > > > c) If they organise some sightseeing tours for me on the > > > > > > > weekend,should I accept it,even though I have a terrible jet lag? > > > > > > > d) If they offer me drinks more than I can afford,can I refuse > > > > > > > them > > > > > > > but won't offend them? > > > > > > > > It's not only important for business people but also for overseas- > > > > > > > study students to know more about the country where they're about > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > stay and the people who they are about to live with... > > > > > > > > These are called GROUNDWORK. > > > > > > > The better prepared you are,the more likely you'll have a pleasant > > > > > > > stay or a successful deal!;) > > > > > > > > Good night and nice weekend to us all! > > > > > > > Claire > > > > > > > On Jun 5, 2:23 pm, Charles <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello everybody, > > > > > > > > I am Charles,a English speaker.I don't know why we should think > > > > about > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > kind of questions,but my answers are below > > > > > > > > > The most important IN CREATING A CULTURE are #1,social customs > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > traditions;#2,arts(include language);#3,ideas and > > > > beliefs;#4,ceremonies > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > festivals. > > > > > > > > > The second question is great.EVERYTHING IS BUSINESS. > > > > > > > > > The most important thing in BUSINESS is profile,then we consider > > > > about > > > > > > > > socializing with > > ... > > 추가 정보 >> --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ESL Podcast". 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