Hi Edward, I think there are some thing you should pay attention. First,choose the material rightly.ask a teach knowing you well,don't like me,waste so much time.
Second,reading and writing first,it's easy to check if you are doing right. third,speaking skill is relative to personality,I don't speak too much before,but I am a chat box now.... 2009/6/11 Edward <[email protected]> > > Hi Charles and all members. > > Yes, I think You are right exactly. > It is important that practicing with real world English on my hand. > Thank you for listening your valuable experience. > I'am going to learn english like you. > > Have a good time. > > > On 6월10일, 오후4시09분, Charles <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi all, > > As the topic change to English studying,I think I have some unique > > experience to share. > > > > I am a smart/thinking quickly guy who is good at mathematic&computer but > > don't talk too much and write too much.In my college time,I worked so > hard > > to pass the CET4,but I still cann't communicate with others very well in > > English. > > > > Forturenately,I think I can now,after studying English on my own way > which > > is easy. > > > > First,English environment is necessary.I have learned English with books > > writed by Chinese for many years.so I decided use the English material > > including English windows XP system,English dictionary,English > book,English > > TV show etc. > > > > Second,yes I can,yes I can,yes I can.No matter how bad the feeling is > when I > > don't understand those words,I didn't give up.There was many difficult in > > studying.I Conquered it with the words "yes,I can." > > > > Third but not finally,let others point out the mistakes of the speech > which > > I think I need do it...I studied English on my own.so,now,I can > understand > > english news on google news,and learn english software very quickly with > no > > language problem but I cann't write a letter satisfied by English > > teacher.There are so many grammar things I don't know... > > > > So,the point is practicing with real world English mater on your hand. > > > > And Pln, haha :D > > > > You are funny but not weird.It's just ... how to say.You know,It's bad > days > > for me now.For english studying,I quited my job as a junior engineer 1 > year > > before.So I have to do the job hunting things now LOL. > > > > And during the economic financial crisis time,nothing is working on the > > convention way LOL... > > > > I opened my Gmail that day and saw a letter with so many "LOL". haha,So > ... > > > > Best Regards > > > > 2009/6/10 Edward <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi John and all members. > > > > > Do you live in Hangzhou? > > > It is near here(Korea). A time difference is only 1 hour between > > > Hangzhou and Seoul. > > > Nice to meet you. > > > > > Have a good time. > > > > > On 6월9일, 오후5시50분, John Awesome <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > yeah, to be exact, I live in hangzhou > > > > > > 2009/6/8 Edward <[email protected]> > > > > > > > Hi Pln, Claire, Charles, John and all members. > > > > > > > Pln, I know TED conference, too. It is very fast speaking english. > but > > > > > Subject is good. > > > > > I have got variety information about presentation skill or it's > > > > > subject. > > > > > I can't see like TED in Korea. It can view only by ipod. > > > > > > > Claire, Did you meet Korean couple? > > > > > Chinese alphabet are semantic symbols, and Korean alphabet is a > > > > > phonetic symbol. > > > > > Korean language is one of the particular language. > > > > > But when I see the foreigner who speak Korean well, > > > > > I think that my learning method is not proper. > > > > > > > Charles, Do you live in China? China is one of the very large > nation. > > > > > I traveled Hong Kong and Macau, but did not traveled the mainland. > > > > > All things have big scale in China. > > > > > > > John, Do you live in China, too? > > > > > I heard it as you explained about kind of Chinese languages. > > > > > > > Good night. > > > > > > > On 6월7일, 오전10시24분, John Awesome <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > since I am a chinese, I'd like to say something, in the large > > > country, we > > > > > > have different customs and culture in different provinces, and > even > > > > > > different languages. In canton, they speak cantonese, which can > not > > > be > > > > > > understand by us, the difference in speaking as large as those > > > between > > > > > > english and german. and i argee with claire, i dont think we dont > > > have > > > > > the > > > > > > same customs, which can be found and described easily. we have > over 1 > > > > > > billion people, u can not use few words to describe such a large > > > group of > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > 2009/6/7 claire <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > Hi Edward Charles Pln John and all members new and old,;) > > > > > > > > > Edward,how coincidental that during our last group chat this > > > > > > > Wednesday,Briana and I were talking about how difficult it is > to > > > read > > > > > > > Arabic,Sanskrit,Chinese and Korean! > > > > > > > I told her once,much to my disappointment,my letter to a Korean > > > couple > > > > > > > was sent back to me. > > > > > > > Perhaps it was because I didn't copy their address well in > > > Korean...:( > > > > > > > > > You're absolutely right that English is very different from > > > Korean,and > > > > > > > that's why it's so much more difficult for orientals like > > > > > > > Koreans,Japanese,Chinese or Taiwanese to be good at English! > > > > > > > > > However,in spite of their disadvantages,they've managed to > dominate > > > > > > > the world high-tech markets of computer,mobile phone or home > > > > > > > entertainment adjacencies,let alone the car market,haven't > they? > > > > > > > > > So allow me to use a mission statement of Nike(or maybe some > other > > > > > > > brand?): > > > > > > > Impossible is nothing!;) > > > > > > > > > And Charles, > > > > > > > I wish I was a professor! > > > > > > > I think I understand what you try to say here as China is a big > > > > > > > country consist of 36 provinces,(am I correct with this > > > number?)it's > > > > > > > not possible to generalize their customs or public > behaviours,is > > > it? > > > > > > > Besides,people in big cities like Beijing,Shanghai or > Shengen(did I > > > > > > > spell it right?) have to be much more modernized than people in > > > other > > > > > > > rural or remote areas,haven't they? > > > > > > > > > Yes,Globalization brings wealth to quite a few developing > > > > > > > countries,but on the other hand,it also exploits them with > worse > > > wages > > > > > > > and poorer working conditions... > > > > > > > > > Good night, > > > > > > > Claire > > > > > > > On Jun 6, 10:45 am, Charles <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Claire, > > > > > > > > > > I guess you are a professor because of your writing skill and > > > > > > > thinking.Nice > > > > > > > > to meet you. > > > > > > > > > > About the culture things,I don't have too much to say.You > > > know,this > > > > > is > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > my field.I am still in trouble with the presents,gifts and > drinks > > > > > things > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > China,even though I have already lived here for many years. > > > > > > > > > > The culture here is little confusing.With same age educated > > > > > friends,we > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > fun together and don't care culture too much.With people who > is > > > older > > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > us,showing some respects will be OK.Certainly,having some > > > presents is > > > > > > > > better. Also,there is a huge difference between in city and > in > > > > > rural. > > > > > > > > > > As the globalization going,People adore high-tech and > business.We > > > get > > > > > > > worths > > > > > > > > in business and better live in high-tech. > > > > > > > > > > 2009/6/6 Edward <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > Hello everybody. > > > > > > > > > Hello Charles and Claire.. > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for your question and an opinion. > > > > > > > > > > > I think that culture is very important to learn english, > > > > > > > > > Because English and others(Korean) are different from > language > > > > > family > > > > > > > > > and culture. > > > > > > > > > > > It was for the last several years that Foreigners increased > > > rapidly > > > > > > > > > into Korea. > > > > > > > > > Our World is small But I'm not speak english well. so I try > to > > > > > learn > > > > > > > > > english. > > > > > > > > > > > I like this ESL Podcast groups. > > > > > > > > > > > Have a good time. > > > > > > > > > > > Edward Park. > > > > > > > > > > > On 6월6일, 오전6시46분, claire <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello Elham Charles Edward John and all other shy > members,;) > > > > > > > > > > > > It's always nice to see new or silent members finally > speak > > > > > up!LOL > > > > > > > > > > They always make me day,and I'm sure Pln,Pablo and Ed > will > > > share > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > feelings,as well!;) > > > > > > > > > > > > Charles,it's very nice of you to have brought this > question > > > up: > > > > > > > > > > Why should we think about this kind of questions?;) > > > > > > > > > > > > When you realize and witness the world is very much > > > influenced by > > > > > > > > > > American or Japanese culture(in Asia),is it a good sign? > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there anything we can do to stop it or the > GLOBALIZATION? > > > > > > > > > > > > Every nation has its own identity which is their own > > > > > > > culture,sometimes > > > > > > > > > > they may fear that their culture is under threat of a > more > > > > > powerful > > > > > > > > > > nation... > > > > > > > > > > And they may consider it as a cultural crisis! > > > > > > > > > > Then at a time like this,you will find Q1 is quite > important > > > as > > > > > how a > > > > > > > > > > culture is created or cultivated... > > > > > > > > > > > > As for Q2,it's all about business or social protocol. > > > > > > > > > > I asked the question because I thought this group is the > > > ideal > > > > > place > > > > > > > > > > for me to gather the 1st hand information from members > from > > > all > > > > > over > > > > > > > > > > the world!!! > > > > > > > > > > It's much more fun than to get it from some site called > > > executive > > > > > > > > > > planet for me! > > > > > > > > > > > > Last week,I was asked by an European businessman who was > > > about to > > > > > go > > > > > > > > > > on a business trip to China: > > > > > > > > > > a) What presents to buy for my Chinese suppliers or > contacts? > > > > > > > > > > b) Should I give the gift to them before or after the > deal? > > > > > > > > > > c) If they organise some sightseeing tours for me on the > > > > > > > > > > weekend,should I accept it,even though I have a terrible > jet > > > lag? > > > > > > > > > > d) If they offer me drinks more than I can afford,can I > > > refuse > > > > > them > > > > > > > > > > but won't offend them? > > > > > > > > > > > > It's not only important for business people but also for > > > > > overseas- > > > > > > > > > > study students to know more about the country where > they're > > > about > > > > ... > > > > 추가 정보 >> > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ESL Podcast". 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