Quoting Günther Noack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>
> Hi!
>
> Am 03.03.2006 um 01:02 schrieb Sa&#65533;o Kiselkov:
> > Any suggestions?
>
> I personally like the separators between the menu items. When arguing
> that
> bigger spaces between menu items result in better separation, one
> should not
> forget that one of Etoiles target platforms are PDAs:
>
> http://www.dromasoftware.com/etoile/mediawiki/index.php?title=PDA
> http://www.dromasoftware.com/etoile/mediawiki/images/4/48/
> Etoile_pda_ui_01.png
>
> Considering that the screen size on PDAs is usually substantly
> smaller than
> on common desktop computers, line-separators may be a better solution
> than
> spacing.
>
> I can actually live with bigger spacing, too. ;-) This is just
> intended as a reminder
> that one should not forget about users with small screens, for whom
> the line-
> separators may be quite useful.

And not only that, I think the separators are a style element which set us
appart from the plain Apple style, and we need to be different so our menu
system won't be an obvious rip-off.

> Here's something else I came up with when running the menubar system:
> When clicking the date and other future menulets, one may expect a popup
> menu to open that allows to change the date and other things. Does the
> current implementation allow to open the same menu popups as the
> application menus do?

Menulets provide their own view to be displayed in the menubar = they are in
charge of what the view does when anything happens on it. They can pop up a
menu, bring up a window, make your screen bounce around ... well, anything in
fact.

> I like the idea of letting the menubar run in two separate
> applications. At first
> glance, this looks like a very dirty hack, but it completely removes
> the flickering
> of the whole menu bar that Wildmenus often had when changing
> application,
> and that's just great! :-)
>
> -Günther

The WildMenus menubar solution was obviously only a temporary one, and more like
a "look, we can do it too". That's why I went the last few steps and made
WildMenus into what it should be. I think... :-)

--
Saso


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