On Apr 7, 2005 6:15 AM, Quentin Mathé <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi everybody,
> 
> Here is a basic plan to merge Garma and Étoilé…
> 
> Garma web site : http://home.gna.org/garma/
> Étoilé web site : http://www.dromasoftware.com/etoile/mediawiki/
> 
> I think we are going to keep everything under Étoilé name for next
> months (ok ?), we could change it later anyway…I admit I miss time also
> to set up a new project now especially considering current Étoilé TODO
> list ;-)

ok.

> Anyway we could have a "click oriented" poll before first release to
> really decide… May be someone want to set up such poll.
> 
> The merge will probably happen in Étoilé cvs, later we will move to
> Subversion but not until commit mails support is enabled on GNA for
> Subversion.
> Why not Arch ? Mainly because it is imho too much complicated to use
> and also too much different from cvs for newcomers.
> What would be my personal preference ?… I would prefer to move to Darcs
> (not supported by GNA anyway), more radical than Arch but simpler to
> use. Take a look at : http://abridgegame.org/darcs/

While arch is quite complicate, you can have simpler frontend with
http://bazaar-ng.org/ (in python by ubuntu folks). Darc while it is very good,
was written in haskell, I was worrying if there will be enough maintainers
for the project in future. Also note that I think Tom Lord is working on
a simpler front end and also arch2(?) which will have backward compatibility.
Though, I am fine with darcs since I personally like it.
 
> Note for Banlu : there are Subversion tools like svn-mirror or svn-push
> to work in a distributed way (you commit your changes on your local
> repository which will be synchronized later with the main one).

cool.

[...]
> Banlu can probably makes extra comments here ?

Yeh, I am trying to make diagramkit to reach a usable stage and
I'll continue working on Maliwan asap. (I needs diagramkit for maliwan's
test suites)

> --> WindowManagerCore (Garma) : "virtual window server" built on top of
> X11 (to allow applications to use X11 backend but in a X11 agnostic
> way, a window manager for example)… I hope I'm not telling totally
> absurd things here, Banlu ?
> In Garma cvs WindowManager part, we can find StepWiRE, TestWM, XWire,
> Banlu could you explain a bit more what are their roles ?

TestWM is a simple wm which makes use of wmcore. It's a simple app,
did nothing just loading wmcore bundle. StepWiRE is my friend's experiment
on another WM to use wmcore. XWiRE is a place holder for plugins for doing hints
for specific environments (but I guess we could just put every wm-spec related
stuffs in wmcore) and addition reusable module like dock and pager.

> --> DiagramKit may be we should mirror it from gsimageapps project ?
> (Garma) : diagramming framework
> DiagramKit is now officially hosted by gsimageapps :
> https://gna.org/projects/gsimageapps

No comment. Fabien?

> --> Calendar (Garma) : calendar management application

A side note that I'm trying to work on a framework that provide
component for doing stuffs related to calendar. Currently trying to
make clock cell base on AClock.

> --> Shhh (Garma) : audio controller, currently only for XMMS
> Banlu, what's your plan for Shhh evolution ?

- Make playlist manager and allow users to mark their favorite CDs
that will make them a static window on the screen, and you click
in each window to get interface to play it. It will looks like you can
have your favorite CDs on your desktop.

- Make an applications system to allow many virtual devices that
you can virtually wire them together. Some of devices will be
a frontend for musickit synthesizers so you can have realtime
filtering over Shhh's audio output.


> May be we should add a category /Services/User/Games with few games
> because Banlu has written/ported very good ones ;-)
> 
> --> LapisPuzzle : http://home.gna.org/garma/lapispuzzle/index.html
> --> NeXTGo : http://maliwan.sourceforge.net/nextgo.jpg

My games are in gap project. May be you can mirror them too. Bheron?
I'm working on Ladder.app (征子, shicho) http://senseis.xmp.net/?Ladder
which will be available in gap and will have more features than nextgo.


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