Le 20 avr. 05, à 13:54, Quentin Mathé a écrit :
Le 19 avr. 05, à 17:11, Nicolas Roard a écrit :
I would like us to discuss a bit what we want to have in the
desktop...
Personally, here's what I want:
1 - a fast filemanager that lets me browse using different modes:
- columns
- list
- icons
- spatial mode (spatial icons + annotations + drawings ...)
else, rather similar to GWorkspace -- I want a shelf and a "path
view". Although the shelf
should be disablable,
That's not exactly what I'm working on because GWorkspace is already
giving much of that.
Could you explain more what you're working on then ?
Browsing will be implemented separately, may be at Tabbed Shelf level
with column view or a concept similar to Banlu idea
<http://maliwan.sourceforge.net/filebrowser.png>
you want to browse in the shelf ?????? urk... I'm frankly not
convainced.
3 - For the file manager, I want inspectors -- but not inspectors in
the file manager (or well, not only). What I want, is to have external
applications (document "viewers") behaving as inspector. For example,
if I want to inspect images, currently in GW I can use the image
inspector -- but it can't be resized. That's bad. What I'd like to
have is to have ImageViewer (for example) launched as an inspector,
and the content of the imageviewer window replaced when I select
another file (eg, like an inspector !). That would be imho more
convenient than having inspectors directly managed by the file
manager...
hmm but Inspector are what I would call "metadatas viewer/setter" but
not "data viewer/setter". Your
disagree. An inspector can be both, imho.
proposal would make things very blurry I think. However I think to
have applications used as inspector (though "inspector role" ?) by
providing them with their own inspector view which integrates nicely
in Étoilé Inspector UI model could be interesting, no ?
Sure. I don't think it's really difficult to do, either : basically,
just call a special method in the application..
It's then up to the app to do what it wants. The nice thing would be
that the editing application obviously know well enough to do a correct
inspector.
4 - a tabbed panel/shelf like
http://www.roard.com/screenshots/screenshot_gnustep.png (but probably
looking like http://www.roard.com/screenshots/Dock6.png)
- you can put anything on the shelf, not just applications
- you can use the tabs to organize your applications and your
work
- do we want special icons like OPENSTEP panel ? eg to see which
apps are running
Initially yes, but in long term now because we should try to move away
from running vs non running application paradigm (with components
orientation I hope).
yes.
and which documents are open ? or should we just have that in
"special" tabs ?
May be. I need to think about it.
ok..
- question : how do we handles iconified windows / non-docked
apps ? the "special"
I don't really like iconified windows paradigm but we will probably
use it initially for simplicity/compatibility reason.
ok, but how, then ? it doesn't really mix well with a panel..
2- a panel
What you mean ?
like the two screenshots I put, or (roughly) like GWorkspace tabbed
panel if you want.
7- a preferences application
Several preferences applications as described on wiki
<http://www.dromasoftware.com/etoile/mediawiki/index.php?
title=Services_Suite#Preferences_related_Services>, in fact I intend
with PreferencesKit to have each pane being a component, that would
allow to use Preference panes in both Preferences.app way or in Mac OS
Classic way where you open one pane at time from a folder.
Note that I didn't mention anything about a Desktop, because I'm not
such a fan of using the desktop. But we could have a Desktop.app
application that will handles it, accept dnd things on it (basically
act like a big shelf), plus some neat additions. In fact it would be
like the "spatial mode" I described for the file manager, but on the
desktop (eg, you'd be able to add annotation too, etc). The goal would
be to transform the "desktop" as a real workplace, not just something
to put shortcuts icons...
As we discussed during FOSDEM, it could probably be combined with
"Virtual Workspace" concept but in a more consistent way than "Virtual
Workspace" idea alone.
yes, but it's a tricky decision.
--
Nicolas Roard
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
-Arthur C. Clarke
