On 8/12/07, Yen-Ju Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8/12/07, Jesse Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I see the Shelf having two types of tabs: User-managed and Smart > > tabs. User-managed are just like traditional folders, where users can > > add any items of any type to them: applications, people, documents, > > etc. Smart tabs are just tabs that are based on a query, and you > > can't manually add new items to that tab (new items could be > > automatically added, however, if they fit the criteria of the query, > > just like how Smart Playlists work in iTunes). Additionally, the same > > object could exist in multiple tabs, just as a certain song could be > > in two or more playlists in iTunes. > > > > For example, I may have 3 tabs in my Shelf: Design, Recent Apps, and > > Active Apps. Design is a user-managed tab, and there I have a list of > > all the apps I use for design, and (for the sake of this example) > > let's say I have Cenon in there. Recent Apps and Active are both > > Smart tabs, and, assuming I have Cenon running right now, it would > > meet the criteria for both of those Smart tabs' queries, and thus > > would show up under either tab. Thus, Cenon could be launched by > > clicking on any of the "Cenon icons" under any of my three tabs. It > > may be redundant, but who's to say that's a bad workflow for that user? > > > > As a default, we may start the Shelf out with only a few generic > > queries: Recent Apps, Recent Documents and Active Apps come to mind > > as good candidates. These should all be removable, if the user > > doesn't find them useful, or edited to something more suitable for > > that particular user. I would like to avoid forcing something like > > "all running apps show up on the first tab", as not all users would > > appreciate that or find it useful. > > > > I think I answered all your questions -- if any of that was confusing > > or if I forgot something, let me know. > > > > You basically use tabbed shelf as a file manager !! > Tabbed shelf has space limit by the size of screen, > otherwise, you need to add some to scroll the shelf, > which is a little bit weird. > So the idea of smart tab is not that good if > there are too many objects inside a tab. > And my biggest question is actually what happens > when you open a document or launch an application > which is not on the shelf ? > Do we add them into the shelf automatically ? > If not, then the situation is much simpler. > So the problem is not what users manually do to the tabbed shelf, > but what kind of automation do we plan to add on the tabbed shelf.
The way I see it, the shelf is kinda like the filemanager -- only it's always present and as such you'll use it differently. But technically it's very close to the filemanager. My personal view on the tabbed shelf is close to what jesse described. The only thing I'd do differently perhaps is that very often used "smart tabs" like (1) running apps (2) recent documents, and perhaps (3) recently launched applications, should be accessed through a special icon rather than a text tab (that way we gain space). -- Nicolas Roard "La perfection, ce n'est pas quand il n'y a plus rien à ajouter, c'est quand il n'y a plus rien à enlever." -- Antoine de St-Exupéry _______________________________________________ Etoile-dev mailing list [email protected] https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/etoile-dev
