Alan - Some members of ANY given group will not be able to exhibit their most efficacious interpersonal-relationship skills by virtue of their written capacity in responses or, gasp! -even flames to a web list. Bearing this in mind, there is an instinctual response that can be observed in the degree of commitment in their vehemence (or insight) of comment to said list(s) that is clearly visible to any outsider (i.e., newby).
I would humbly suggest you contact someone who can walk you through setting up a webpage, instead of knocking on the 1,000 + wrong door(s) of an obvious public of music-traders (although there may be webpage-proficient members of that list in their own right, and I'm sure there are). I'm concerned that there is a public apprehension of a -mostly benevolent and helpful- online music-trading community that is generally regarded as one who observes a "newbie" policy of "shut the fuck up" and "suffer on their own" -clearly, this is a negative regard. And, for the record, this has not been (overall) my experience with advice/help on either the smegs or etree list. I -for one- grow tired of reading about newby-this, newby-that, even though I am STILL a newby. I run my own server, it's not the best one out there. I read posts that look interesting, mayhaps that can offer some insight to my current conundrum, and when I need help beyond that, I contact someone -off list! Courtesy and good manners go a long way. Thank you's and please's have gotten me more help than (even mildy-perceived) rants. And I've sent my share of those in too. Alan, want to build a webpage? I assume you can get in contact with people with whom you FTP, right? Well, start by asking there. Nothing wrong with a general cry 'help,' but everything in moderation right? Ask for help, cut the shots, it'll get you more. The desire to get 'trading-capable' and the impetus to act on accomplishing that goal, is a LONG road. I've been working on it for a couple of months now, and I don't even HAVE a list. Don't need one. Need to chat more, send me a response. I'll be glad to talk to you, even put you in contact with some good (list(s)) people. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'till then. I mean, at least you're reading the FAQ and help pages -that's a START. Tom Willing to gather what another man might spill? -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Alan Croft Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 10:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [etree] Stupid Fucking Newbie OK. I read the whole introduction pages for newbies, checked out the FAQ's, and even tried to get some help in the chat room, but nobody would help me to understand how to set up a page with a list of my shows (few as they may be). It seems that everyone in etree has a web page with a list of their shit, yet I can't find the info on it at all. I realize that I am setting myself up for tons of ridicule from most of the etree people who think that newbies should suffer on their own and shut the fuck up, but I am praying for just one KIND person to give me a link, a point in the right direction, or some information on how to do this. Thank you to those that help, and I am sorry for burdening the rest of you with my existence. Have a Grateful Day, Alan "Once in a while, you get shown the light, in the strangest of places, if you look at it right." _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx _______________________________________________ etree.org etree mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://mail.etree.org/mailman/listinfo/etree Need help? Ask <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> _______________________________________________ etree.org etree mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://mail.etree.org/mailman/listinfo/etree Need help? Ask <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
