Multiple recipients of list wrote: > EUG-LUG Digest 122 > > Topics covered in this issue include: > > 1) RE: WebSite of ELUG's -- LUGE ! > by Rob Shirey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 2) Free ISP coming to Linux soon! > by Rodney Mishima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 3) Re: FW: guns!!! > by David Lawrence Forest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 4) RE: guns!!! > by "Thomas Trent" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 5) Re: FW: guns!!! > by "John H. E. Fiskio-Lasseter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 6) RE: guns!!! > by "Kimzey, Dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 7) guns... objections... > by Linux Rocks! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 8) RE: guns!!! > by Justin Fairfax <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 9) RE: guns!!! > by "Thomas J Macauley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 10) Re: spam (FW: guns!!!) > by Edward Craig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 11) LINUX POSITION IN EUGENE > by David Mandel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 12) Re: spam > by Michael Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 13) Panel at the UO School of Law's 2000 International Human Rights > Conference (fwd) > by Joseph Anthony Griffo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 14) E-Smith Reward > by "S.W. Mims, III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 15) Re: spam > by Magnus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: RE: WebSite of ELUG's -- LUGE ! > Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 01:15:39 -0800 > From: Rob Shirey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > At 12:44 PM 02/22/2000 -0800, you wrote: > >What about: > > > >If you don't do it right you crash into a wall. > > > >In a four-man bobsled team, everyone contributes to the success of the > >team, but only one guy can steer. > > > >Everything you do is focused on beating an established benchmark. > > > >A couple of nobodies from a third-world country can come in and make a > >name for themselves. > > > >Luge rhymes with huge. > > > >Unfortunately, LUGE is taken by the LUG Emory. Visit the LUGE website > >at http://luge.cc.emory.edu/ > > > >--Mike > > . . . . but of COURSE the #%^*#@% name would have been taken by now. > > My enthusiasm ate my homework! > > ( LUGE NW ? ) > > darn. gotta go fsck my inner researcher. again. > > -- Lemuel Potzendorf > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Free ISP coming to Linux soon! > Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 01:25:31 -0800 (PST) > From: Rodney Mishima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Eugene Lug, > > I asked about Linux support, and got this response: > > I urge everyone to sign up w. this service. Even if your main ISP is a high > speed connection, this can be a good backup. Or, when you travel w. your > laptop; they have local phone numbers nationwide. > > Rodney > > Subject: > re: inquiry > Date: > 2/22/00 5:47:41 PM > From: > Worldspy Customer Service <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > CC: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Thank your for contacting [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > We have planned a Linux version of the WorldSpy Software. This should be > available during the first quarter of 2000. Please keep checking our > website for further information. > > If you have any additional questions, comments or concerns please email us > at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Or you may call our Technical Support Center at 1-877-SPYDIAL > (1-877-779-3425). Technical Support Representatives are available to assist > you 7 days a week, 24 hours a day. > > Thank you for using WorldSpy.net > > Technical Support Representative > Worldspy.net > > Rodney Mishima wrote: > > I belong to the Linux Users Group in Eugene, OR. A fellow member says that > you are going to add support for the Linux OS. If that is true, please let > me know. When it is ready, the Eugene Lug membership will gladly help you > test it for you. > > Regards, > > Rodney Mishima > > Received 2/20/00 2:05:24 PM > > > > _______________________________________________________ > Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite > Visit http://freeworld.excite.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: FW: guns!!! > Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 08:29:17 -0800 (PST) > From: David Lawrence Forest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > CC: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Thomas Boerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Steve Shapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "Sprinklme2@aol. com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Spenser Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Seth Cohn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "RodneyMishima@NetZero. net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Rebecca Mow Gruber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "Poets4evr@aol. com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "Perry@Archersadvantage. Com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Mom and Dad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Mike Stanislowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Michael Medlock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Michael D Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Martina Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Marc Baber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > List server Archery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Linux Rocks! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Leisa Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Laura Smit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Lael Suzann Henrikson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Kimberly C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Kevin Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Justin Fairfax <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Julie LeVine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > John Nicols <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > John Nicols <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Jeanie Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Hervey Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Heather McInnis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Harry LeVine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Hannah Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Hannah Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED], > Gordon Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Eug-Lug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Ellen Chapman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "Douglas C. Hintz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Doug - dkokkeler Kokkeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Dennis Soper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dennis Kimzey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Darton Archery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Cohen Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "Bob O'Malley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Blandine Huchet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Bill Faust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Ben Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Becky Eby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Annie Kokkeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Chris Moxon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Laura Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Abdulaziz Alrasheed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Adrienne Diedrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Doug Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Gabe Wishart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Graeme Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Jan Hagenbrock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Jessica Troy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > John Fisko-lasseter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > John Jenkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Kuan Ying Fu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Linda Chung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Linda Tran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, M Alharbi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Mark Lorincz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Matthew Guthrie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Nick Coday <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Nick Reich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Peter Beebe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Ramon Riva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Ryan Reeves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Sasha Tavenner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Scott Crosson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Spike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Takem Yoshida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Please remove me from this list. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: RE: guns!!! > Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 17:34:46 -0000 > From: "Thomas Trent" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Let's remove whoever sent this SPAM from our mailing list! > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: FW: guns!!! > Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 10:08:41 -0800 (PST) > From: "John H. E. Fiskio-Lasseter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > CC: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Thomas Boerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Steve Shapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "Sprinklme2@aol. com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Spenser Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Seth Cohn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "RodneyMishima@NetZero. net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Rebecca Mow Gruber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "Poets4evr@aol. com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "Perry@Archersadvantage. Com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Mom and Dad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Mike Stanislowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Michael Medlock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Michael D Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Martina Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Marc Baber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > List server Archery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Linux Rocks! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Leisa Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Laura Smit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Lael Suzann Henrikson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Kimberly C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Kevin Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Justin Fairfax <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Julie LeVine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > John Nicols <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > John Nicols <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Jeanie Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Hervey Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Heather McInnis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Harry LeVine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Hannah Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Hannah Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED], > Gordon Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Eug-Lug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Ellen Chapman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "Douglas C. Hintz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Doug - dkokkeler Kokkeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Dennis Soper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dennis Kimzey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Darton Archery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Cohen Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "Bob O'Malley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Blandine Huchet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Bill Faust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Ben Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Becky Eby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Annie Kokkeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Chris Moxon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Laura Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Abdulaziz Alrasheed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Adrienne Diedrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Doug Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Gabe Wishart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Graeme Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Jan Hagenbrock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Jessica Troy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > John Jenkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Kuan Ying Fu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Linda Chung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Linda Tran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, M Alharbi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Mark Lorincz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Matthew Guthrie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Nick Coday <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Nick Reich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Peter Beebe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Ramon Riva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Ryan Reeves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Sasha Tavenner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Scott Crosson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Skip Forest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Spike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Takem Yoshida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I really don't appreciate gun-rights spam in my mailbox. If you intend to > use the list for that purpose, remove my name. > > Thanks, > -- John > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Wit, an' it be thy will, put me into good fooling. Those wits > who think they have thee do very oft prove fools, while I, who > am sure I lack thee, may yet pass for a wise man. For what > says Quinapalus -- "Better a witty fool than a foolish wit". > _Twelfth Night_ > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: RE: guns!!! > Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 10:31:59 -0800 > From: "Kimzey, Dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Thomas Boerman > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Steve Shapiro > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "Sprinklme2@aol. com" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Spenser Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Seth Cohn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "RodneyMishima@NetZero. net" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Rebecca Mow Gruber > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "Poets4evr@aol. com" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "Perry@Archersadvantage. Com" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Mom and Dad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Mike Stanislowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Michael Medlock > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Michael D Richard > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Martina Armstrong > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Marc Baber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > List server Archery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Linux Rocks! > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Leisa Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Laura Smit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Lael Suzann Henrikson > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Kimberly C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Kevin Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Justin Fairfax > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Julie LeVine > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > John Nicols <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > John Nicols <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Jeanie Hall > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Hervey Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Heather McInnis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Harry LeVine > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Hannah Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Hannah Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED], > Gordon Bowen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Eug-Lug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Ellen Chapman > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "Douglas C. Hintz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Doug - dkokkeler Kokkeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Dennis Soper > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Darton Archery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Cohen Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "Bob O'Malley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Blandine Huchet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Bill Faust > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Ben Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Becky Eby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Annie Kokkeler > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Chris Moxon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Laura Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Abdulaziz Alrasheed > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Adrienne Diedrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Doug Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Gabe Wishart > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Graeme Clark > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Jan Hagenbrock > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Jessica Troy > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > John Fisko-lasseter > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > John Jenkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Kuan Ying Fu > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Linda Chung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Linda Tran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, M Alharbi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Mark Lorincz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Matthew Guthrie > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Nick Coday <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Nick Reich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Peter Beebe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Ramon Riva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Ryan Reeves > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Sasha Tavenner > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Scott Crosson > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Skip Forest > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Spike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Takem Yoshida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Please take me off your list. I do not want to receive this kind of > material. > > Dennis Kimzey > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 9:46 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thomas Boerman; > Steve Shapiro; Sprinklme2@aol. com; Spenser Smith; Seth Cohn; > RodneyMishima@NetZero. net; Rebecca Mow Gruber; Poets4evr@aol. com; > Perry@Archersadvantage. Com; Mom and Dad; Mike Stanislowski; Michael > Medlock; Michael D Richard; Martina Armstrong; Marc Baber; List server > Archery; Linux Rocks!; Leisa Cummings; Laura Smit; Lael Suzann Henrikson; > Kimberly C; Kevin Phillips; Justin Fairfax; Julie LeVine; John Nicols; John > Nicols; Jeanie Hall; Hervey Allen; Heather McInnis; Harry LeVine; Hannah > Phillips; Hannah Phillips; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Gordon Bowen; Eug-Lug; Ellen > Chapman; Douglas C. Hintz; Doug - dkokkeler Kokkeler; Dennis Soper; Kimzey, > Dennis; Darton Archery; Cohen Andrew; Bob O'Malley; Blandine Huchet; Bill > Faust; Ben Barrett; Becky Eby; Annie Kokkeler; Chris Moxon; Laura Jensen; > Abdulaziz Alrasheed; Adrienne Diedrich; Doug Simpson; Gabe Wishart; Graeme > Clark; Jan Hagenbrock; Jessica Troy; John Fisko-lasseter; John Jenkins; Kuan > Ying Fu; Linda Chung; Linda Tran; M Alharbi; Mark Lorincz; Matthew Guthrie; > Nick Coday; Nick Reich; Peter Beebe; Ramon Riva; Ryan Reeves; Sasha > Tavenner; Scott Crosson; Skip Forest; Spike; Takem Yoshida > Subject: FW: guns!!! > > > > > Number of physicians in the U.S. > ........................................................700,000 > > Accidental deaths caused by physicians per year . > ....................120,000 > > Accidental deaths per physician > ..........................................................0.171 > > Number of gun owners in the U.S. > ........................................................80,000,000 > > Number of accidental gun deaths per year (all age groups).......1,500 > > Accidental deaths per gun owner > .........................................................0.0000188 > > > > Therefore, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than > > gun owners. > > > > Taken from the Benton County NewsTribune on the > > seventeenth of November,1999. > > > > Please pass this on!!!! > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: guns... objections... > Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 12:07:33 -0800 (PST) > From: Linux Rocks! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Please please please do not reply to the entire list, and all the people > cc'd in any message unless each person needs to read it. > Im sure ron though that everyone would be interested in it, > eventhough it is completely off topic. > If you have an objection to any message you are welcome to post it > to the author, however do not cc a huge list of people, or include mailing > lists! > > Jamie > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: RE: guns!!! > Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 12:15:21 -0800 (PST) > From: Justin Fairfax <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Kimzey, Dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > CC: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Thomas Boerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Steve Shapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "Sprinklme2@aol. com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Spenser Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Seth Cohn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "RodneyMishima@NetZero. net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Rebecca Mow Gruber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "Poets4evr@aol. com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "Perry@Archersadvantage. Com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Mom and Dad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Mike Stanislowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Michael Medlock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Michael D Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Martina Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Marc Baber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > List server Archery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Linux Rocks! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Leisa Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Laura Smit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Lael Suzann Henrikson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Kimberly C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Kevin Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Julie LeVine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > John Nicols <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > John Nicols <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Jeanie Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Hervey Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Heather McInnis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Harry LeVine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Hannah Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Hannah Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED], > Gordon Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Eug-Lug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Ellen Chapman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "Douglas C. Hintz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Doug - dkokkeler Kokkeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Dennis Soper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Darton Archery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Cohen Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "Bob O'Malley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Blandine Huchet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Bill Faust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Ben Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Becky Eby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Annie Kokkeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Chris Moxon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Laura Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Abdulaziz Alrasheed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Adrienne Diedrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Doug Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Gabe Wishart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Graeme Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Jan Hagenbrock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Jessica Troy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > John Fisko-lasseter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > John Jenkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Kuan Ying Fu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Linda Chung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Linda Tran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, M Alharbi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Mark Lorincz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Matthew Guthrie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Nick Coday <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Nick Reich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Peter Beebe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Ramon Riva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Ryan Reeves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Sasha Tavenner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Scott Crosson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Skip Forest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Spike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Takem Yoshida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Um, here is another problem... Please don't reply to all people on this > list, I have received more mail about getting off this list than I did > actual mail.... To be honest I didn't even receive the original. > > I think this person is just spamming mailing lists anyways.... look above > how many @lists.uoregon.edu addresses are there. When we respond to this > person we are probably just notifying him that we have active mailing > accounts that he can spam to anyways. Note: I am not cc'ing this to the > original mailer... > > Just my $.02 > > Justin Fairfax > > ********************************************************************** > > Justin Fairfax E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > New Media Center Phone: (541) 346-3157 > Unix Systems Administrator Fax: (541) 346-3157 > > ********************************************************************** > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: RE: guns!!! > Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 14:42:22 -0000 > From: "Thomas J Macauley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Please remove me from this list. > > > > Let's remove whoever sent this SPAM from our mailing list! > > > > I really don't appreciate gun-rights spam in my mailbox. If you > > intend to use the list for that purpose, remove my name. > > > > Please take me off your list. I do not want to receive this kind of > > material. > > > > Yeah! We as the open-minded, free thinking, tolerant, intellectual > Eugeneian, Linux-type, Internetzians need to CENSOR opinions that > we disagree with. > > (Based on my experience living in other cities and foreign cultures, > Eugene has got to be one of the most closed-mined places there is, > even though they fancy themselves open minded. Perhaps this is the > place Orwell had in mind.) > > Come on people. One email with an off-topic opinion that yall > disagree with - and yall want to censor the sender. > > Should the rest of us also censor everyone who replied to the off- > topic post because they were off topic and sent the reply to everyone. > > Now if the original post had an enclosure of a naked woman. . . would > the women on the list have a right to dissent? > > Come on Eugene, use your brains - if you have any left. > > ------------------------------ > Note: This is a tounge-in-cheek post about censorship of off-topic > material on discussion lists, not about guns. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: spam (FW: guns!!!) > Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 16:49:18 -0800 (PST) > From: Edward Craig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Eug-Lug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > So far, this is the first spam to the list, unless you count the > organics thing, which I had fun turning into an open source thing. I > suppose I could do it here, I don't see why I should. (Guns are open > source, medicine is not). > I'm unhappy with closing the list to non-subscriber contributions. > Too much useful stuff has come from PLUG and mid-valley and even elsewhere > for that to be done for one obnoxious instance of spam. > I don't wish to close subscriptions off either, allowing > subscriptions only after I, or Jamie, or perhaps others, approve. > I've removed nobody from eug-lug. (I didn't save the original > post, nor the poster's address, which makes it harder). > I'll reconsider if this happens again. Jamie and/or I can take > action unilaterally if needed. Granted, part of the motivation for this > attitude is sloth, hands-off is easy on list-owners, but part is an > unwillingness to cut off sources of potential information. > Those of you interested in more discussion of closing this list > can either post to the list or reply by email (to me and/or [EMAIL PROTECTED]) > as you feel necessary. I'd prefer to let this blow over. > -- > Ed Craig [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Taxi Linux FreeBSD > Think this through with me, let me know your mind... Hunter/Garcia > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: LINUX POSITION IN EUGENE > Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 19:02:07 -0800 (PST) > From: David Mandel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Michael Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > CC: Portland Linux User Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Mid-Willamette Valley Linux Users Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Eugene Linux Users List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Michael Smith sent the following posting to me. > > On Sun, 20 Feb 2000, Michael Smith wrote: > > > Hi, I'm from the Eugene Linux Users Group, and this is from our local > > newspaper. Could you please send it to PLUG or mid-valley, or anybody > > else you deem worthy? > > > > About 1.5 months ago, they posted this in the paper, and now they're > > reposting it, so I think they might be having a hard time finding > > somebody in Eugene. > > > > Whittier has a network of about 100+ Linux workstations and a Un*x > > database server. They make very nice wood furniture. > > > > Help Wanted: Computer SENIOR SOFTWARE ENGINEER - > > Participate in design and development of state > > of the art > > object-oriented software for growing furniture > > manufacturing company > > with 100+ users, using C, C++, UNIX, Linux, SQL. > > 5 yr commercial > > experience & BS degree in CIS preferred. > > Excellent benefits. Stable > > employment. Good working atmosphere. Resume's > > confidential. EOE. > > Mail resume to: Attn: CIO Whittier Wood Products > > PO Box 2827, > > Eugene, OR 97402 > > Location: OR Date: 2/20/2000 > > Source: Register Guard (Eugene) > > > > Anyway, thanks > > --Mike > > > > -- > > Michael J. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 4052 Southway Loop, Springfield OR 97478 > > (541) 726-1561 > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > David Mandel > Chief Activist > Portland Linux/Unix Group > 1440 NE 59th > Portland, Oregon 97213 > > ====================================================================== > David Mandel - Linux Evangelist Avalon Technology Group > VP - Training & Software Development 0607 SW Idaho St. > (503) 246-3630 Voice Portland, Oregon 97201 > (503) 246-3124 Fax http://www.avalongroup.net > Linux&Dual Boot Systems * Linux Networking * Linux Training > ====================================================================== > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: spam > Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 20:49:44 -0800 > From: Michael Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For those of you who remember, we did get spammed about a month ago by somebody >stealing a message from David Mandel and putting in an advertisement. Hopefully, >this is the last. > > I would like to remind everyone that it is so easy to hijack somebody else's mail >account, so it's not a good idea to spam the offending address since the owner of it >might not be the spammer. > > In most cases, the best response is for ONE of us (either EUGLUG president, EFN >staff, or another tactful, responsible adult) to mail the domain owner (find it >through whois, or failing that, [EMAIL PROTECTED]) and notify them that an abuse >has occured. In some states, there are laws against spam, and domain owners are in >the best position to fix problems like this. > > However, if we get much more spam on the list, we might further explore other >options. Unfortunately, having more people on the list means that we get better >dialogs, but it also increases our visibility to spammers. > > If you are thinking about leaving the list, please don't. Just because an >anti-social yahoo or two are making noise, lists are THE best way to share tips and >info, since everyone has access to mail. If you still want to be removed from the >list, see our web site for details on how to do that, but please don't send a request >for removal to the list itself. > > I think that just about covers my feelings about this. > > --Mike > > -- > Michael J. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 4052 Southway Loop, Springfield OR 97478 > (541) 726-1561 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Panel at the UO School of Law's 2000 International Human Rights > Conference (fwd) > Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 21:38:55 -0800 (PST) > From: Joseph Anthony Griffo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Thought that some of you might find this interesting... > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 01:02:00 -0800 > From: Joshua Madden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Panel at the UO School of Law's 2000 International Human Rights > Conference > > This may be of some interest to some of you who are interested in > matters of computer security, cryptography, and the legal positions > of people who break encryption schemes. Given the natures of the > speakers/debaters I expect that it will be a scintillating panel. > This issue is of special interest right now because of the legal > attack that is being made on a collection of people (and one in > particular) who managed to break the encryption system on DVDs. > > Joshua Madden > > > > > Greetings > > The University of Oregon School of Law's 2000 International Human > > Rights > > Conference February 25-26,2000 announces a panel/debate on the The > > Ethics > > and Legality of Hacktivism: Hacking for Human Rights. With speakers > > Oxblood Ruffin, Foreign Minister from the Cult of the Dead Cow > > (http://www.cultdeadcow.com), Hacktivist Broncobuster, and FBI Computer > > Crimes Agent, Jamie Barrett as well as an Oregon DOJ Computer Crimes > > Agent. > > > > THE PRIMARY PURPOSE OF THIS PANEL IS TO EDUCATE STUDENTS ON THE > > SERIOUS > > STATE AND FEDERAL LEGAL CONSEQUENCES FOR HACKING > > > > For more info e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] or check the web > > site at > > http://www.law.uoregon.edu/~intllaw. > > > > *****Scroll down for keynoters and panels!!!! > > > > MORE INFO: > > Written by Oxblood Ruffin of CDC: > > The CULT OF THE DEAD COW (cDc) is the most inflential group of > > hackers on > > the Internet. Formed in 1984, the cDc has published the longest > > running > > e-zine on the Internet [cDc t-files]. More recently, the group has > > released both Back Orifice (BO) & Back Orifice 2000 (BO2K), two of the > > most popular Windows/NT network administration tools available. The CULT > > OF THE DEAD COW is often called upon to offer expert commentary on "The > > State of the Net" to the media. As leaders in the alternative computing > > community, cDc members frequently sort out complex technical issues > > journalists are required to cover in their reportage. > > > > Oxblood Ruffin is a senior strategist with the CULT OF THE DEAD COW. He > > works primarily in developing new initiatives with the group, recruiting > > new members, and forging relationships with progressive hacking groups > > in the United States and around the world. He is currently focussed on > > developing software applications to be used by Internet users living in > > authoritarian regimes (i.e. China). > > > > > > KEYNOTERS > > *Dr. Peter Irons, Professor of Political Science at the University of > > California at San Diego. Dr. Irons led the legal battle in overturning > > the WWII era convictions of Japanese-Americans internees (Korematsu and > > Hirabayshi cases), eventually paving the way for U.S. Government > > reparations to surviving Japanese-American internees in the 1980's. > > > > *Professor Ward Churchill, Professor of Ethnic Studies at University of > > Colorado - Boulder, AIM Member > > > > *Ledum Mitee, successor to Ken Saro-Wiwa of the Ogoni in Nigeria. > > President of the Movement for the Survival of the Ogoni People (MOSOP) > > > > > > Other Panels > > * Human Rights in East Timor > > * Burmese Human Rights Crisis > > * Hate Crimes > > * Hacktivism: The Legality of Hacking for Human Rights > > * Chiapas > > * Death Penalty > > * Lesbian and Gay Human Rights > > * Torture > > * The Freedom of Information Act Workshop > > * UN Peacekeeping Reform > > * International Labor Rights > > * Migrant Labor Rights > > * Children's Rights > > * Women's Rights > > > > ****The conference is FREE > > ****Please pass this e-mail along to students and colleagues. > > ****Please check the web site for the most current information and > > register at http://www.law.uoregon.edu/~intllaw ****You may download a > > brochure off the web site in PDF format ****E-mail > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] for more INFO > > > > Feb. 25-26,2000!!!! > > > > > > > > Warm Regards, > > Cory Smith > > International Human Rights Conference Co-Director > > Co-Director of the International Law Students Association > > Human Rights Conference e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Human Rights Conference Phone :1-541-346-3175 > > Human Rights Conference fax :1-909-257-8576 > > Cell Phone :1-541-513-6242 > > Conference Web Site :http://www.law.uoregon.edu/~intllaw > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Per Obscurius....cs.uoregon.edu/~jmadden > Joshua Madden: Information Scientist, Musician, Philosopher-At-Tall > It's that moment of dawning comprehension that I live for. -- Bill Watterson > My opinions are too rational and insightful to be those of any organization. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: E-Smith Reward > Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 22:46:55 -0800 > From: "S.W. Mims, III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Eugene Linux Users Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Mid-Willamette Valley Linux Users Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Portland Linux User Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Seattle Linux Users Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hi all -- > > Thanks to again to those who responded. The best answer was: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > You need to be aware of what will or might need to be migrated. > In addition to the home directories and password files (/etc/shadow as well > as /etc/passwd), you also need to migrate the LanManager/NT password files > (/etc/smbpasswd), the Apache access password file (/etc/httpd/users), the LDAP > directory information and group membership information. You might be able to > get by without some of that, but you will strike trouble somewhere down the > line. > > > Also an issue is preserving http links within the subscriber > > web pages. > > If those links use "~" or ".." they should still be OK. > > > Thanks for any assistance. > > Charlie > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: spam > Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 23:08:40 -0800 > From: Magnus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Wed, 23 Feb 2000, from your lips spewed forth: > > For those of you who remember, we did get spammed about a month ago by somebody >stealing a message from David Mandel and putting in an advertisement. Hopefully, >this is the last. > > > > I would like to remind everyone that it is so easy to hijack somebody else's mail >account, so it's not a good idea to spam the offending address since the owner of it >might not be the spammer. > > > > In most cases, the best response is for ONE of us (either EUGLUG president, EFN >staff, or another tactful, responsible adult) to mail the domain owner (find it >through whois, or failing that, [EMAIL PROTECTED]) and notify them that an abuse >has occured. In some states, there are laws against spam, and domain owners are in >the best position to fix problems like this. > > > > However, if we get much more spam on the list, we might further explore other >options. Unfortunately, having more people on the list means that we get better >dialogs, but it also increases our visibility to spammers. > > > > If you are thinking about leaving the list, please don't. Just because an >anti-social yahoo or two are making noise, lists are THE best way to share tips and >info, since everyone has access to mail. If you still want to be removed from the >list, see our web site for details on how to do that, but please don't send a request >for removal to the list itself. > > > > I think that just about covers my feelings about this. > > > > --Mike > > > > -- > > Michael J. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 4052 Southway Loop, Springfield OR 97478 > > (541) 726-1561 > > Well said. > Another thing that might be a possibility is, if spam starts becoming a > habitual thing, It wouldn't be hard for me to get a licensed copy of Mail Gear > at a low price. As it runs on Redhat 5.2 and higher it would be possible to set > it up as a relay for the mailing list. This would provide content > filtering/anti-spamming functionality, as well as making the mailing list > available through a nifty web interface. That is, providing that it would be > feasible to move the list to it's own mail server. > Just a suggestion spawned from the spam and the fact that I just took a class > in this particular piece of software and it looks REALLY cool. > > -- > --------------------------------- > "Love is like a snowmobile speeding across the frozen tundra. Suddenly, it > flips, pinning you to the ground. At night the ice weasels come."-Matt Groening > > Magnus The Evil Troll > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > phone : 1-800-POD-BABY > Web: http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Marina/3780 Hay I thought this list was about shareing info about linux/unix not a bitching board for people who dont have a clue about preventing spam spam spam spam Wonderfull spamm gloriouse spam. I suggest reffering the original address to Garey the anti spamer at efn.com. (Gary Frazier) now for something more seriouse what ever happend to the everedy bunney?
