On Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 09:01:08AM -0700, Tim Howe wrote:
> I think, after Neil and Seth looked at it, we decided that I need to
> give the www group write permissions for the file.
 
Really?

janky:/var/www% ls -l
...
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  daemon   512 Aug 30 18:00 logs

janky:/var/www/logs% ls -l *rotlog*
-rw-r--r--    1 root   daemon       73 Aug 31 10:46 jakemsr-rotlog.0999279900
-rw-r--r--    1 root   daemon      494 Aug 30 17:50 rotlog.0999219000
-rw-r--r--    1 root   daemon      132 Aug 30 17:56 rotlog.0999219300

janky:~% ps aux |grep httpd
root     10004  0.0  3.0  1336  3408 ??  Ss  6:00PM    0:02.48 /usr/sbin/httpd 
www      28380  0.0  3.1  1392  3480 ??  I   6:00PM    0:00.09 /usr/sbin/httpd 
www      19400  0.0  3.4  1460  3844 ??  I   6:00PM    0:00.11 /usr/sbin/httpd 
www      10442  0.0  3.4  1476  3868 ??  I   6:00PM    0:00.13 /usr/sbin/httpd 
www       9001  0.0  3.1  1392  3480 ??  I   6:00PM    0:00.09 /usr/sbin/httpd 
www      29521  0.0  3.1  1392  3480 ??  I   6:00PM    0:00.13 /usr/sbin/httpd 
www      20466  0.0  3.0  1344  3436 ??  I   7:45PM    0:00.08 /usr/sbin/httpd 
www      24777  0.0  3.4  1468  3856 ??  I   7:45PM    0:00.15 /usr/sbin/httpd 
www      17886  0.0  3.1  1400  3484 ??  I   7:45PM    0:00.09 /usr/sbin/httpd 
www       9486  0.0  3.1  1400  3484 ??  I   8:01PM    0:00.09 /usr/sbin/httpd 

root owns the master process, which is used for logging and such.  
(ssl_* is a little different though)

> they use MS Messaging 

Blech ... ptooey <cough> <cough>, sorry 
IIRC, there are some messages in the eug-lug archives about *nix
alternatives for messaging and calendar services.

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