hmm well. I got kind disenchanted with *BSD when it wiped out my entire disk 
without asking or warning me, to make matters worse, it promptly crashed and 
rebooted right after wiping the entire disk (with 4 operating systems, and my 
entire backup of my mandrake system, with all my work on it...). Im not 
saying that I wont try *bsd, but Ill never put it on a disk with other OS's 
on it!

Jamie

On Friday 09 November 2001 13:15, you wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 09:18:23AM -0800, larry a price wrote:
> > The other one would be seen plugging into the cardbus only to vanish from
> > the sight of the operating system which would say: Where did the card go?
>
> Lemme guess, this was the LinkSys being discovered as ne3 ?
> at the boot> prompt:
> boot -c
> disable cbb
> quit
>
> If that works, disable cbb (cardbus, but it should work as PCMCIA, since
> that's a PCMCIA card) permanently
>
> > Moral of the story. Beware pcmcia ethernet cards when installing netbsd.
> > So in order to return the laptop to a functional state I'm looking for an
> > OS, right now the leading contenders are in order.
>
> Or just read the man pages (ne(4) lists the "Where did the device go"
> message in the DIAGNOSTICS section) and search the mailing list archives ;)
>
> > 1. FreeBSD - Pros: wide support, likely to deal well with minority pcmcia
> > cards and such. Cons: safe and solid and boring
>
> Actually, I had to hack the card daemon data files to get my LinkSys
> card to work on FreeBSD, and I only figured out how to do that after
> several hours of searching.
>
> I got it to work on OpenBSD with an "intuitive guess" -> take out the
> middle man :)
>
> > 2. OpenBSD - pros: fanatical support locally, secure, strong crypto,
> > cons: smaller developer/user community, PCMCIA support unkown
>
> PCMCIA is there; I'm sending this email through a LinkSys PCMCIA
> card.  OpenBSD is used mostly as a router or server, so a parallel
> port scanner, for example, is not supported because it is not deemed
> important.
>
> > AnyHoo, I'm confused and seeking input, if you have a suggestion as to
> > Operating Systems that's not on the list, my only criteria are:
> > Must be open source, should run python, Must be able to connect to the
> > network via the PCMCIA bus. Should allow me to learn about itself
> > relatively quickly and easily.
>
> Have you even tried OpenBSD?  The last line is why I like OpenBSD.  It
> is well documented.  IMO, it is as simple/intuitive as *nix gets.  It's
> really easier to learn when you have to do it yourself, is it not?   I
> was using Debian, but wanted more control (in a way that would be
> portable to other *nix's) ...

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