are you going to second the motion yourself?  or keep mailing this to the
list every five minutes?

as you ask us to not cc activism, i ask that you do not repeat yourself
eighty billion times.  we have the message.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: kg7fu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 10:58 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [EUG-LUG:248] ORDER! [WAS EUG-LUG:239] Re: EUGLUG
> organizational meeting NEXT Thursday (11/29)
> 
> 
> 
> Bit 'o history....
> 
> When Darrough and Kaplan resurrected the Eugene Linux
> Users Group, Kaplan became de facto president and El Jeffe.
> 
> Cohn, in a bloodless coup, stole the tri-corner newspaper
> cap and imaginary gavel (Only Kaplan posseses the REAL
> gavel deal). In fact, it was an e-mail SNAFU by which I found
> out I was not supposed to be talking to the public and corporate
> sectors about Linux anymore. "Nobody wanted the job" is bull-crap.
> 
> We, sans Cohn and probably everyone at EFN, had grand plans
> for ELUG and none of them were even slightly close to BSD,
> pumping GPL or stuff like that the original basis and purpose was
> to spread the word, amass a knowledge base and help thy fellow
> PC enthusiast. Seems a bit more sinister and weird now, eh?
> 
> About 2 years ago (check the archives) we had arguments pertaining
> to organizing ELUG. I defer to those arguments pro and con and
> hereby present a motion to defer organizational discussion 
> until such time
> that a reliable, knowledgable, personable and stable(?) individual or
> panel can be installed as El Jeffe, etc and organizational skills, etc
> be honed and displayed for our general perusal.
> 
> Now, for something completely different....
> 
> I nominate new-guy-in-town-sorta KBob, El Jeffe, with Bob Crandell, 
> Veep and Larry, Ben or Ed, Secretary. Seth should share Technical
> Issues and Intelligence with, say Rob and maybe a younger member, 
> as a panel. We should have a Corporate Interface position, preferably 
> with non-retail, non-gasoline sales experience (Crandell?) and an 
> Information Officer to propagate pamphlets, impress the press 
> and amuse
> the news. Jaime and at least one other should cover the newsgroups & 
> mail lists.
> 
> Further, I motion we carry these positions until such time as 
> difficulties,
> personal or professional issues or traitorus acts present 
> themselves or
> one year whichever comes first, for each office. At that time 
> we will appoint 
> a panel of 4-6 to nominate officers. 
> 
> I'm not promoting "Robert's Rules", but this business of "Seth is the
> best guy for all jobs" is bunk. I'm sure he is busy enough 
> with outside
> projects as well to carry this motley crew through growing pains while
> retaining his famous "objectivity". No offense to Mr. Cohn, 
> he's a great 
> person, but if we're going to do this, let's do it democratically as 
> possible, eh?
> 
> Have we any seconds to the motion?
> 
> James Kaplan
> 
> On Tuesday 27 November 2001 03:14, Sum Yung Guy wrote:
> 
> > (So far, President Seth has no opposition, even if
> > his election is under auspices suspicious - nobody else 
> wanted the job
> > when Seth volunteered).
> >       Because I plan to attend, I'll note that I have room for a
> > passenger if driving is required to get to the meeting.
> 
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