Here are the minutes from tonight's organizational meeting.

Executive Summary

        We have a group responsible for finding a regular meeting
        space.  The members are on the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing
        list, which is open to all.  The goal is to be able to resume
        regular weekly clinics and monthly presentations starting in
        January.  The space finders have tight deadlines to meet
        to get that job done.

        We decided not to incorporate or charge dues, but we did elect
        some officers for our non-organization.

        Many other topics were discussed, and decisions were, in many
        cases, arrived at.

        Action items are listed in CAPITAL LETTERS throughout.
        Scan the action items and see what you've volunteered to do.

Minutes

        These minutes are my (kbob's) interpretation of what happened
        at the meeting.  Sorry if I omitted, misattributed, or
        misunderstood your great idea.

        I also reorganized stuff.  This is not the order it happened in.

Attendees

        These people attended the meeting.

            Ben Barrett
            Justin Bengtson
            Kahlie Burke
            Jamie Chamoulos
            Seth Cohn
            Ed Craig
            Bob Crandell
            Jim Darrough
            Anne Eagle
            Jim Kaplan
            Horst Luecke
            kbob Miller
            Mike Owen
            Larry Price
            Rob Shirey arrived just as we finished.
            Stacey Wellborn

Topics

I. Club Organization

  I.A. incorporation
  I.B. dues and budget

        Seth is opposed.  Nobody wanted to argue the case in favor of
        a formal organization, so once again, we remain an anarchy.

  I.C. officers

        Seth: wants president and vice president

        Darrough: wants silly titles.  Suggested Grand Poobah and Vice
        Poobah.

        Seth: Wants to keep Rob Hudson as Webmaster.

        Concensus: keep Rob.

        Seth: wants to be Guy in Charge of Getting Free Shit

        Kbob and BobC (the two other white Bobs) were railroaded
        into taking the pres and VP positions.

ACTION ITEM kbob: Run the club.

ACTION ITEM BobC: Help run the club.

II. Activities

  II.A. Mailing Lists

        Seth: wants to move lists off efn.org onto boxes he controls.
        Problems with dropped mail, politics.

        Seth: wants to set up a Mailman admin interface w/ Michelle
        Brownsworth.

        Seth: [EMAIL PROTECTED] is for those who herd cats -- er, no,
        it's for discussion of club organization issues.  Subscribe by
        sending a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

        Kaplan: wants a moderated list, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

        kbob: wants [EMAIL PROTECTED]

        Darrough: Wants EUGLUG to be able to form SIGs.  We decided
        that the way to form a SIG is to create a mailing list.
        Anybody can create a mailing list, so anybody can form a SIG.
        Some SIGs will die from lack of interest, but the good ones
        will survive.

ACTION ITEM Seth: move mailing lists off EFN, set up mailman,
        set up low-noise and announce lists.

ACTION ITEM Kaplan: moderate low-noise.

ACTION ITEM Rob Hudson: update web site to describe new mailing list
        setup when Seth gets it done.  Find way to track all lists (or
        just point to mailman page).

  II.B. Clinics

        Concensus: we like weekly clinics.  Which night depends
        on what's available for our meeting space.

  II.C. Presentations

        Concensus: We want to start monthly presentations again
        as soon as we have space.

  II.D. Special Events

        Seth: Computer Expo was good.  Let's repeat it next year.

        Seth: We should do two special events a year.

        Seth: We should do a booth at Oregon Country Fair again.
        Join [EMAIL PROTECTED] to discuss.

        Seth: I want to organize a key signing party

ACTION ITEM Ed and Ben: organize EUGLUG's Country Fair presence next year.

  II.E. K-12 Project

        Eugene's 4J school district is working with the PLUG
        (Portland Linux User Group) to set up diskless Linux
        boxes in classrooms.

        It seems silly for them to be working with PLUG when
        we're right here.  

        This project is looking for a volunteer.  Who wants to
        help the 4J schools install Linux in their classrooms?

ACTION ITEM anybody: volunteer to lead or contribute to this project.

III. Meeting Space

        We need a space for clinics and a space for presentations.
        There are several possibilities, and various club members
        have volunteered to work each possibility.

        Our goal is to have a meeting space(s) by January 1, 2002,
        both for clinics and for presentations.

  III.A. Candidate Spaces

        EWEB (Eugene Water & Electric Board)
        University of Oregon
          Libraries
          Main Building (on Agate?)
        The Growers' Market
        City of Eugene
        County of Lane
        EFN (Eugene Free Network)
        ORCAS (Oregon Center for Applied Science)
        The Atrium Building, 10th & Olive
        Public Library (not open until late spring)     
        River Road Parks & Recreation (suggested by BobC after meeting)

  III.B. Plan of Action

        Six members volunteered to take responsibility for trying to
        get space with specific organizations.  Those members and
        organizations are:

          Ben:    U of O
          Ed:     Growers' Market
          Larry:  EFN
          Kaplan: EWEB, Atrium Bldg, City, County
          kbob:   ORCAS
          BobC:   River Road Parks & Recreation
        
        Our plan is to spend one week (11/29 through 12/6)
        brainstorming how to convince space owners to let us
        use their space, and how to overcome objections that
        past space holders have had.

        The following week, we will talk to all the space holders.
        After that, the holidays will make it much harder to reach
        people.

ACTION ITEM Seth: subscribe the six to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

ACTION ITEM Ben: prepare a Wiki page for brainstorming discussion and
        post its location to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        
ACTION ITEM Ben, Ed, Larry, Kaplan, kbob, BobC:
        Subscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if Seth doesn't do it.
        
ACTION ITEM Ben, Ed, Larry, Kaplan, kbob, BobC:
        Join into the Wiki discussion.  Complete the
        discussion by 12/6.

ACTION ITEM Ben, Ed, Larry, Kaplan, kbob, BobC:
        Contact your target organization(s).  See if they'll let us
        meet there.  Keep the herding list apprised.  Complete by
        12/13.

        I feel optimistic that we'll have a good meeting room next
        year.

IV. Other

  IV.A. Logo design

        Justin: has designed a new EUGLUG logo, wants to see it used.

ACTION ITEM Justin: Show us your logo.

  IV.B. Web Site

        There was discussion of what we might want to do with
        the web site.  There were no firm decisions reached.
        I think the concensus is that we like what Rob's doing,
        but it should be easier for other people to contribute
        content.

        Assuming that there's a real problem here to be solved
        (I'm not convinced there is), anybody want to take
        charge of this?

ACTION ITEM anybody: volunteer to make web site collaboration easier.

  IV.C. U of O Open Source User Group

        Ben says he went to one of their meetings.  They're
        a small group.  They don't meet year-round.

  IV.D. EUGLUG Distro

        Ben wants to do a EUGLUG Linux distribution.  Go, Ben!

-- 
Bob Miller                              K<bob>
kbobsoft software consulting
http://kbobsoft.com                     [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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