On Mon, Jan 28, 2002 at 05:52:11PM -0800, Linux Rocks ! wrote:

> Im looking at trimming some fat if I can.

Well, the port/pkg system doesn't split packages down into, say,
foo and foo-dev, which means that static libs and header files are
installed with almost every pkg.  You can delete them without
ill effect (pkg_delete will complain - "perhaps the packing list
was incorrect?" - but will still function properly).

> I would like to get a decent webbrowser... I like konqueror, netscape, 
> mozilla, are big pigs... I cant deal with them.

I did some unscientific testing of browser speed today.  Of the
major GUI browsers, Opera was the quickest, by far.  Of course,
on OBSD, this means you'll have to install the redhat_base pkg, which
is rather large.  Also, the BSDi Navigator was faster than konqueror,
but ever so slightly.

> I would also like to 
> configure ppp ( i rigged up a modem...) I found the /etc/ppp directory... 
> maybe I can hack about untill I get it right..

I found the userland *BSD ppp pretty easy to set up as compared to 
pppd on Linux, as well as more featureful than pppd + several packages
to add to pppd (it even has it's own packet filtering and NAT engine!).  
The ppp manpage is rather extensive, but a lot of it is for setting up
incoming connections also.  You can probably skip down to the "MANUAL
DIALING" section to get started; it shouldn't take long from there :)

> minicom would be good to have 
> too....

See the 'term' command in ppp.  minicom is also a port/pkg.

> If you havnt done so before, try running xdaliclock in the root window, wtih 
> the -cycle option... I kinda like the xosview -cycle -root , but its a bit 
> busy... maybe xosview -root -cycle -noseconds is better. I used to run it not 
> in the root, but in a window, and without the boarder, titlebar, and resize 
> bar.... just the display, same with xosview, but with 24 megs ram xosview 
> doest stay up, just when in question or testing....

It's not quite as cool-looking as xosview (and that's not saying a whole
lot), but if you just want some stats and stuff, look for a pkg of 
xuvmstat; it's really small.

> So.... what else do I need? I guess some networking tools... 

ngrep (grep packet data payloads) and ntop (might be boring on a ppp link)
seem to be pretty useful, but I haven't played with either much yet.

If you installed the ports tree, you could 'cd /usr/ports/net && make 
show=COMMENT | less', and then read /usr/ports/net/$port/pkg/DESCR
if a COMMENT catches your eye.  Unpacking the ports tree will eat up a lot
of inodes (it unpacks to ~50MB, but needed more inodes than I had in a 
125MB slice; now I know about newfs -i ;).  Since you probably won't
be able to unpack ports.tar.gz, you can find out more about the ports/
pkgs at http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/ports/.  There's
also http://www.openbsd.org/2.9_packages/ (no 3.0 version, sorry).

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