Patrick R. Wade wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 01:28:46PM -0700, Bob Miller wrote:
> >
> >Patrick R. Wade wrote:
> >
> >> 4. EFN nameservers do not respond to ICMP, so pinging them will not tell
> >> you that they are up.
> >
> >Why not?  Ping is a useful and widely known tool, so why break it?
> 
> I believe that the concern was that ping is also a useful and widely known
> DoS tool, and that since there is only one service that box provides, it is
> possible to test the box by testing the service...

Let's say I have a Windows box.  (Eeeuuugh!)  I can test its existence
using ping from a DOS window.  To test its existence using DNS, (I
think) I'd have to delete all other DNS servers, install that one,
reboot, look up a host, restore the other DNS servers, and reboot
again.  (Unless there's a Windows tool like dig or nslookup.)

OTOH, ping seems like a pretty poor DoS tool to me.  I just hit my box
with 4 Mbit/sec of pings, and it slowed down 23%.  450 MHz Pentium II.
I could do a lot more damage with 4 Mbit/sec of DNS queries. (-:

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Bob Miller                              K<bob>
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