On Tue, May 14, 2002 at 10:25:48AM -0700, Linux Rocks ! wrote:
> Yeah... I was going to mention that Ive put OpenBSD on my laptop... Ive 
> atually made some usable system on 300 meg hard disks (althoug more diskspace 
> and ram would make them a lot more usuable...) 

I did an OBSD install on a 545MB drive a few days ago.  I even split
out a few slices, then added some packages.  I did a little trimming
and found that I made /usr way too big. 

>       Anyway... my OBSD laptop has webservices and a few light gui's (blackbox, 
> windowmaker, icewm), lots of fonts, and the gimp...  The Slackware laptop has 
> a webserver with mysql, and php, aswell as the gimp... its a handy test 
> server, as well as a gimpin box. I also have a windows laptop with the gimp 
> (hey... the gimp runs on windows! I was surprised at how much it doesnt suck 
> (although it dont do gifs....)

Yeah, I installed gimp-1.2.3 on a Windows box recently.  It's actually
pretty darn smooth.

>       So... 300 megs will work (Sigh... I really need bigger drives!) for a more 
> usable system. Im thinking of doing a new slackware system and see if I can 
> get kde on it (I really like konqueror and kmail...) 

There is konqueror-embedded, which only relies on Qt2.  It's in the OpenBSD
3.1 ports tree.

> Im using Opera on the 
> laptop, as its the only browser I could find that would fit (most browsers 
> require a lot of libraries and other dependancies... Opera is staticly linked 
> when compiled, and is only about 10 megs to download!

There's also Dillo -> http://dillo.cipsa.org.br/  Its's in the OBSD
3.1 ports tree also.

> I can help install at a lug meeting or something... its not rocket science 
> (well.. actually rocket science is a bit more fun!).

Sez who :)

> :
> : Jami is putting Slackware on old hardware too.  Maybe he can let us know
> : how he did it.

It wasn't about installing on old hardware.  Well, I guess that's a side
effect.  I like OpenBSD because it's simple.  I mean, I wanted to use
Linux to actually learn how to use grep, sed, make, vi and all that.  I
had to learn too much about package managers and front ends and all this
fluff.  Sure, I had to learn what was going on and how to manipulate
it, but that was the point in the first place.

Beyond that, OpenBSD is actively maintained, has all the crypto I could want,
is well documented, and it installs secure by default.  I could go the Linux
from Scratch route, but then I lose all these things, or I would be spending
all my time actually building and maintaining an OS from scratch. 

It's about simplicity, the flexibility that simplicity creates, and the
documentation that empowers one to take advantage of the flexibility.

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