On Sunday 21 July 2002 17:21, you wrote:
> Well I got the new Debian Woody up(well that is it is the eight disk CD
> set marked
> Debian Woody May 02 realease).  I just got it for $28 from
> CheapBytes...and wouldn't
> you know it...they release Woody 3 the next day....sigh.
>
> I don't know where to start...
>

The Debian wasn't very graphical like Mandrake or Red Hat.  But After you get 
get the base install apt-get will become your friend.  They did it right with 
apt-get it figures out you have depencies and tells you it will need them.
If Debian 3.0 is using the graphical installer from Progeny it should be 
pretty sweet.  If not it's fairly straight forward install but not graphical. 
 


> I'm a complete RedHatter from way back...
>
You will have to be aware the file or directory where you normally stuck your 
Red Hat configuration files might be in another spot.  But after seeing where 
Red Hat stick configuration files and Debian does Debian makes a little more 
sense to me.

> Where is the source for the kernel?
>

/usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.17/

> I guess I'll search each Cd and find the deb packages...do I need
> anything other
> than the kernel source, and the header files....I assume they will be
> different .deb's
>
> I already HATE dselect.  It's cryptic....
>

Your right there, but if you get stuck in the menu's something isn't right.  
I believe there was talk of switching to aptude.  Which is a little nicer.  
The easier way to install in command line is run these commands.
apt-get update
apt-get upgrade
apt-get install netscape # or any file you want installed.
However I was reading the install manual and it didn't recomend apt-get.  
I've never had problems and the ones I have it was easy for me to figure out 
what I needed.  Once you get X installed and are online I would recomend the 
ximian desktop.  It's nice however, I don't know if they have a woody release 
out for it yet

> Anyway...I kept my RH7.3 install on the main disk...so now I can choose
> either from
> the GRUB loader....
>
> I need the 2.2 kernel because of a VMWARE issue....:)
>
>From what I've read you can use either 2.2 or 2.4 it's your choice.  That is 
sweet.

> So I'll be slowly bringing the sys up...
>
> It's UP now....with Xwindows, sound, modem, eth0, etc.
>
> I just need to recompile this vanilla kernel.
>

To try a custom kernel configuration the Debian way try this URL.
http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.en.html

When you compile a kernel the Debian way the dpkg-kernel actually makes a deb 
of the kernel you just compiled.  You then install the kernel using dpkg  and 
if you want to go back to the plain vanilla kernel you just go use dpkg to 
instlall the old kernel.  Very sweet.  

> That reminds me !!  In Red Hat there is a command line util
> called "setup" that allows you to control services...how do I
> control services in debian Woody?  I can tell I'm loading WAY
> too many services....
>
apt-get install linuxconf

modconf    will install modules.
netconf    part of linuxconf.

and there is the one which the same one caldera uses but I can't remember the 
name.  You can use a browser.

I love Debian's philosophy.  Debian is not the easiest to install but once 
you get installed and do some apt-get without the depency problems you will 
come to apreciate it more and more.

Welcome to the wonderful world of Debian GNU/Linux.

> Thanks...Daniel

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