When the aliens get here, we'll have computers that won't need programming.
Peter Bailey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote*: > > >> some really ugly code sometimes, well ok, alot of times, but you shouldn't blame the >> language for code produced by someone better suited to flipping burgers. > > Ahh. _That_ is why I hate java so much! > > Or maybe it's because of the programming burger-men that 128 megs >of java memory is like 4 megs in any other case. Actually, CPU looks like >a similar function. cubed route of required CPU for java task == CPU >required to do the task in visual basic with lots of bloaty options. > > I can't wait to see the next generation programming languages when >CPUs are all read in gHz dropping fractions, and all memory is super-fast, >solid state and nobody knows what a megabyte means anymore (as if they do >now). Who knows, maybe competition will drain out and standards will be >efficient and enforced.. once the aliens get here. > >On Tue, 17 Sep 2002, Bob Crandell wrote: > >> I was attracted to PHP because it reminds me of C. They both put the power of >> choice back in the hands of the programmer where it belongs. Yes, you end up with >> some really ugly code sometimes, well ok, alot of times, but you shouldn't blame the >> language for code produced by someone better suited to flipping burgers. >> >> $0.02 more. >> >> Jacob Meuser ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote*: >> > >> >On Mon, Sep 16, 2002 at 07:38:16PM -0700, Bob Miller wrote: >> >> Bob Crandell wrote: >> >> >> >> > Larry, I'm crushed. Do I detect a bit of prejudice here? Please >> >> > tell me it isn't so. >> >> >> >> It isn't so. >> >> >> >> Larry isn't prejudiced, he's just accurately describing PHP. >> > >> >Granted, php will let a person write horrible code. One way >> >to minimize the ugliness is to use php.ini-recommended instead of >> >php.ini-dist as the php.ini. >> > >> >I really think Larry was talking more about postnuke in particular >> >than php in general, tho. I can't tell the difference in execution >> >time between a purely Apache http authentication and a php http >> >authentication, and none of the sites I've built with php look like >> >slashdot. >> > >> >Also, running a chrooted httpd with mod_php is much simpler than >> >with mod_perl or mod_python, as perl and python need to be able to >> >find their modules at will (a modularly built php loads it's modules >> >when httpd is started). One could use 'mount --bind' or mount_null >> >to put the modules into the chroot, but the point of a chroot is to >> >keep as much as possible out of reach. IOW, an attacker could >> >modify 'remounted' perl or python modules that would later get >> >executed outside of the chroot by unsuspecting users, possibly by >> >root. Other options include copying the modules into the chroot or >> >having two separate perl/python installations. Neither of these seem >> >to be very easy to manage. >> > >> >Just my $0.02. >> > >> >-- >> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >_______________________________________________ >> >Eug-lug mailing list >> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug >> > >> -- >> Bob Crandell >> Assured Computing >> When you need to be sure. >> Voice 541-689-9159 >> FAX 240-371-7237 >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> www.assuredcomp.com >> Eugene, Or. 97402 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Eug-lug mailing list >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug >> > >_______________________________________________ >Eug-lug mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > -- Bob Crandell Assured Computing When you need to be sure. Voice 541-689-9159 FAX 240-371-7237 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Eugene, Or. 97402 _______________________________________________ Eug-lug mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
