Master O Planet,

The point of the euglug thursday clinics are supposed to provide you
with exactly what you are seeking.  Hopefully the environment is not
making you feel uncomfortable in asking questions.  It is very likely
that the questions you ask have been asked by other people, even by
those you ask.  But there was a time when they did not know such things
and its now time for them to share those answers with others.  Your
questions are important and not out of place.

The two tracks are solely for the saturday presentations.  Anyone is
welcome at either track, regardless of skill.  They are merely
presentations and not work sessions.  

The clinics on thursdays are for both beginners and experts.  Beginners
come often with their system to get help setting up things.  Just about
two and a half years ago I showed up for the first time at the clinics
with my laptop trying to get X configured.  X 3.3.6 was the latest, and
I couldn't figure out the modelines to get my display working.  Another
problem I had was trying to get exim to deliver my mail.  Upon
installing it I had chosen the option "no configuration, I understand my
mail configuration will be broken until I configure it."  For some
reason, it just wouldn't deliver mail!  One of the attendees was able to
help me resolve the problem.

Through the lug, I was able to work through problems as they came and
eventually help others.  Now I've incorporated linux into a large
portion of my server room.  I'm using it for a firewall, vpn, mail
filter, web server, and file and print server.  In addition I have a
linux server on which I run several perl scripts I've written which
replicate tens of thousands of graphic images across servers, monitor my
internet line and email me the highlights of the Event Logs from my
windows servers.

The lug is a great place to gain lots of knowledge quickly.  However
there are a few things you need to do:  1) Come regularly.  You get out
of it what you put in to it.  2) Ask questions.  Unasked questions are
unanswered questions.  3) Watch what experienced people do.  When you
see someone typing someting on their system, watch!  Ask them what they
are up to.  It's not a secret, otherwise they wouldn't be at the lug.

Seek out other novices, that's great.  But bring it to the lug.  You and
another want to setup two clients connecting to the same X server.
Bring in your systems and work through your HOWTOs there.  When you get
stuck, fire off some questions and you'll see your learning bypassing
all of the toughest obstacles.  The point is to learn as much as you
can, not to see how flat your head can be, banging it against the wall,
right!?

Cory


On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 04:03:23PM -0700, Master O Planets wrote:
> I am looking for other Linux beginners who want to build a workgroup.  I've
> been lurking on the edge of the mailing list.  In and out of the
> conversation for two years.  I have to admit that I don't know much about
> Linux because I've been clinging onto Windows.  I recently upgraded my video
> card, and due to some complexities, I almost ran for WinXP, but then there
> is Palladium and all the crap M$ has pulled before!  I contacted the card
> makers forum and it appears there is a workable solution under Linux.
> 
> I noticed some talk about a two track system: expert and beginner.  I want
> to see if there are other novices in the group that want to work on specific
> problems and not feel afraid to ask the dumb questions.
> 
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