Cory  --  GREAT response !
 I am wondering if our web page should have a well visible section along 
the lines like 'Local Success Stories' to lower the contact-Angst 
threshold for newbies?  Personal statements from people in the community 
may have more weight than a well written, general article.
 (of course, it's all in the mail archives, but how many people will go 
through 1 MB/month of data?)

 - Horst


On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, Cory Petkovsek wrote:

> Master O Planet,
> 
> The point of the euglug thursday clinics are supposed to provide you
> with exactly what you are seeking.  Hopefully the environment is not
> making you feel uncomfortable in asking questions.  It is very likely
> that the questions you ask have been asked by other people, even by
> those you ask.  But there was a time when they did not know such things
> and its now time for them to share those answers with others.  Your
> questions are important and not out of place.
> 
> The two tracks are solely for the saturday presentations.  Anyone is
> welcome at either track, regardless of skill.  They are merely
> presentations and not work sessions.  
> 
> The clinics on thursdays are for both beginners and experts.  Beginners
> come often with their system to get help setting up things.  Just about
> two and a half years ago I showed up for the first time at the clinics
> with my laptop trying to get X configured.  X 3.3.6 was the latest, and
> I couldn't figure out the modelines to get my display working.  Another
> problem I had was trying to get exim to deliver my mail.  Upon
> installing it I had chosen the option "no configuration, I understand my
> mail configuration will be broken until I configure it."  For some
> reason, it just wouldn't deliver mail!  One of the attendees was able to
> help me resolve the problem.
> 
> Through the lug, I was able to work through problems as they came and
> eventually help others.  Now I've incorporated linux into a large
> portion of my server room.  I'm using it for a firewall, vpn, mail
> filter, web server, and file and print server.  In addition I have a
> linux server on which I run several perl scripts I've written which
> replicate tens of thousands of graphic images across servers, monitor my
> internet line and email me the highlights of the Event Logs from my
> windows servers.
> 
> The lug is a great place to gain lots of knowledge quickly.  However
> there are a few things you need to do:  1) Come regularly.  You get out
> of it what you put in to it.  2) Ask questions.  Unasked questions are
> unanswered questions.  3) Watch what experienced people do.  When you
> see someone typing someting on their system, watch!  Ask them what they
> are up to.  It's not a secret, otherwise they wouldn't be at the lug.
> 
> Seek out other novices, that's great.  But bring it to the lug.  You and
> another want to setup two clients connecting to the same X server.
> Bring in your systems and work through your HOWTOs there.  When you get
> stuck, fire off some questions and you'll see your learning bypassing
> all of the toughest obstacles.  The point is to learn as much as you
> can, not to see how flat your head can be, banging it against the wall,
> right!?
> 
> Cory
> 
> 
> On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 04:03:23PM -0700, Master O Planets wrote:
> > I am looking for other Linux beginners who want to build a workgroup.  I've
> > been lurking on the edge of the mailing list.  In and out of the
> > conversation for two years.  I have to admit that I don't know much about
> > Linux because I've been clinging onto Windows.  I recently upgraded my video
> > card, and due to some complexities, I almost ran for WinXP, but then there
> > is Palladium and all the crap M$ has pulled before!  I contacted the card
> > makers forum and it appears there is a workable solution under Linux.
> > 
> > I noticed some talk about a two track system: expert and beginner.  I want
> > to see if there are other novices in the group that want to work on specific
> > problems and not feel afraid to ask the dumb questions.
> > 
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