Tim,
You really need some info from the user to track usage. Often you can track
via static ip, or mac address. One way would be to give each user a username
and password to login (this way you have a reference to track the users
usage). So... If you can give the customer a username password (simular to a
cybercaffe) then you would have a reference, the only other alternative I can
think of is the mac address of the network card they are using... which is a
bit more tricky to do. If the customer can hand a technician the network card
(like a pcmcia card...) the tech can check the mac address, and configure the
firewall to accept that nic, and setup tracking based on that nic.
I dont think there are other ways to track usage, but maybe someone else
knows a way...
Jamie
On Saturday 01 March 2003 09:09 pm, Timothy Bolz wrote:
: Cory & Ben
:
: Thank you for responding. I work at a hotel about 2 months back we got
: high speed internet for our rooms. It's a homepna system. We have DSL to
: the hotel and it's split from there. The company who installed and support
: it is http://www.trinicor.com . Half the hotel has high speed. They
: Managers need a usage log to see if a lot of people are using it and if all
: the rooms are being used then they would install the rest of the hotel.
:
: I talked with trinicor and they can do the logging with the firewall. I
: thought since my computer was on all the time I could log it. I just need
: to know how many people are getting on the internet. Since all of our
: rooms are not high speed internet the front desk has to ask them if they
: need it. That doesn't mean they use it. In order to track if people were
: using it they would have to start asking when they check out "where you
: able to use the high speed internet". That would be a pain for the front
: desk. Especially if there is a line of people waiting to check out. They
: want to find out if it is a success and if we need to add more rooms.
:
: Trinicor has a good solution for hotels and building which were built
: before networking. I thought it would be good for strip malls, commercial
: building and apartement complexes. They can do cat5 or phone line. So a
: building could have high speed for each tenant. It's been very good so
: far. It's DSL speed for us but they offer different solutions. It's a
: great technology.
:
: http://www.homepna.org/
:
: I didn't know I need more info but I was just thinking about logging how
: many people were on. I think they need to know if it's been a success and
: if they need to add more rooms. They should have it set up to log next
: week.
:
: Thanks
: Tim
:
: On Friday 28 February 2003 12:37 am, you wrote:
: > On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 12:02:04AM -0600, Timothy Bolz wrote:
: > > Is there a program or network monitor which can tell when someone
: > > connect to the network and how long.
: >
: > Tim, I think you need to define what you want a little more.
: >
: > > We have dhcp and people connect and disconect all the time.
: >
: > Your dhcp leases file will show which mac addresses were leased to which
: > ip addresses. However this information expires after ____ (insert your
: > default lease time here). This file is stored on your dhcp server.
: >
: > > There are only a few computers which are on all the time. I'm
: > > don't have access to the gateway-router-firewall and do I need access.
: > > I need to know how if people are using it or not.
: >
: > I think you are saying, "I don't have access to the firewall, but I need
: > to know how people are using the interenet." If that is so, which is
: > still quite a general statement there are a few ways you can monitor,
: > however it requires adding programs to your firewall:
: > 1) You want to know what services and ip addresses people are connecting
: > to via the interenet. You can use the logging facility within the
: > firewall to log this information (iptables/ipchains/other).
: > 2) You want to monitor what websites people are connecting to. Use a
: > webproxy like squid which and enable logging.
: > 3) You want to monitor bandwidth. iptraf for realtime stats. There are
: > some tools that will actually take logs, but I have not used them yet. I
: > have some emails stored from another list where there was a discussion on
: > it. If this is really what you want I can dig it up.
: >
: > > Mostly it's laptops being
: > > connected. I've looked up monitors in freshmeat and couldn't fine
: > > anything close to what I'm looking for. I could use the IP addresses
: > > as where and I wouldn't need how long they were on but it might be
: > > usefull.
: >
: > I don't see how the ip address tells you _anything_. Your ip addresses
: > are assigned by the dhcp server. Someone plugs in, gets an IP and then
: > unplugs. What does the ip tell you?
: >
: > Maybe it would help if you talked more about what you are trying to
: > acheive.
: >
: > Cory
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