Sure. It seems to me that this thread is getting off-topic -- remember, folks, we're talking about guests at a hotel. You might think it's cool to get a login/password when you check in, but 99% of the world just wants it to work. I'm pretty certain we're just seeking a passive monitoring system, such as cory suggests, as the router/firewall level prolly. I don't know much about HomePNA, but how are your clients connecting? Are there terminals already connected in each room, for web-surfing, or do you [also?] offer an ethernet jack for those with their own machines? This will clarify the options we have, for using IP and/or MAC address to identify unique clients... basically, I'd say Cory is right-on with ipband, iptraf, snort w/ custom rule, etc, to gather some basic stats -- it sounds to me like the key information you'd want to gather is: 1. WHEN a new user connects (new as the hotel's guest, that is) 2. HOW MUCH they use (maybe not as important, but it'd be nice to garner accumulative bandwidth usage) 3. WHEN they're done (or some means of specifying and end-time for accumulation of #2)
#1 and #3 could be eased by using a 24-hour rotation, and later corelating that with the hotel's guest-history. So, this is your work? Nice to get free consulting, eh? Can I charge you $150/hr? = )) I only bring this up, b/c I forsee much more tension in the future, as open source continues to be adopted by the commercial world, in the benefit commercial ventures get from user groups like ours... how 'bout getting your hotel to make a contribution to EUGLUG when your problem is solved?? On another note, I'm curious as to why you say this is such great technology? Does it have to do with ease of adoption/installation? Great support from trinicor in particular? Why don't they offer a solution for this? You'd think it would be a great selling point, to get your hotel to get the other half setup for instance... ciao, Ben On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 21:09, Timothy Bolz wrote: > Cory & Ben > > Thank you for responding. I work at a hotel about 2 months back we got high > speed internet for our rooms. It's a homepna system. We have DSL to the > hotel and it's split from there. The company who installed and support it is > http://www.trinicor.com . Half the hotel has high speed. They Managers > need a usage log to see if a lot of people are using it and if all the rooms > are being used then they would install the rest of the hotel. > > I talked with trinicor and they can do the logging with the firewall. I > thought since my computer was on all the time I could log it. I just need to > know how many people are getting on the internet. Since all of our rooms are > not high speed internet the front desk has to ask them if they need it. That > doesn't mean they use it. In order to track if people were using it they > would have to start asking when they check out "where you able to use the > high speed internet". That would be a pain for the front desk. Especially > if there is a line of people waiting to check out. They want to find out if > it is a success and if we need to add more rooms. > > Trinicor has a good solution for hotels and building which were built before > networking. I thought it would be good for strip malls, commercial building > and apartement complexes. They can do cat5 or phone line. So a building > could have high speed for each tenant. It's been very good so far. It's DSL > speed for us but they offer different solutions. It's a great technology. > > http://www.homepna.org/ > > I didn't know I need more info but I was just thinking about logging how many > people were on. I think they need to know if it's been a success and if they > need to add more rooms. They should have it set up to log next week. > > Thanks > Tim > > > > > On Friday 28 February 2003 12:37 am, you wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 12:02:04AM -0600, Timothy Bolz wrote: > > > Is there a program or network monitor which can tell when someone connect > > > to the network and how long. > > > > Tim, I think you need to define what you want a little more. > > > > > We have dhcp and people connect and disconect all the time. > > > > Your dhcp leases file will show which mac addresses were leased to which ip > > addresses. However this information expires after ____ (insert your > > default lease time here). This file is stored on your dhcp server. > > > > > There are only a few computers which are on all the time. I'm > > > don't have access to the gateway-router-firewall and do I need access. I > > > need to know how if people are using it or not. > > > > I think you are saying, "I don't have access to the firewall, but I need to > > know how people are using the interenet." If that is so, which is still > > quite a general statement there are a few ways you can monitor, however it > > requires adding programs to your firewall: > > 1) You want to know what services and ip addresses people are connecting to > > via the interenet. You can use the logging facility within the firewall to > > log this information (iptables/ipchains/other). > > 2) You want to monitor what websites people are connecting to. Use a > > webproxy like squid which and enable logging. > > 3) You want to monitor bandwidth. iptraf for realtime stats. There are > > some tools that will actually take logs, but I have not used them yet. I > > have some emails stored from another list where there was a discussion on > > it. If this is really what you want I can dig it up. > > > > > Mostly it's laptops being > > > connected. I've looked up monitors in freshmeat and couldn't fine > > > anything close to what I'm looking for. I could use the IP addresses as > > > where and I wouldn't need how long they were on but it might be usefull. > > > > I don't see how the ip address tells you _anything_. Your ip addresses are > > assigned by the dhcp server. Someone plugs in, gets an IP and then > > unplugs. What does the ip tell you? > > > > Maybe it would help if you talked more about what you are trying to > > acheive. > > > > Cory > > _______________________________________________ > > Eug-LUG mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > > _______________________________________________ > Eug-LUG mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug -- Ben Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> counterclaim _______________________________________________ Eug-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
