On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 07:50:52AM -0800, Ben Barrett wrote:
> Very nice explanation Cory... my opinion is that holographic storage,
> used to store and recover 1's and 0's is digital.  If we can TCP/IP with
> bongo drums or carrier pigeons, them it seems the message, not the
> medium, is the critical factor in determining digital vs. analog, IMHO.
Yes, if we use it to store 0's and 1's.  However, a holographic image
stored on a holographic plate is not 0's and 1's.  Similarly neither is
a memory stored in the brain.  I extend this further to suggest that
much future information (indeed much current information) can be stored
in other than 0's and 1's format.  Current information as I stated
before such as audio, video and graphics.

> While I agree that DNA contains the *information*, the process cannot
> begin, or be completed (organic life) without a suitable virtual machine
> or environment such as Earth 1.0 or better.  My personal opinion is that
> we may require something more than environment in which to run our
> programs, as well -- something loosely defined as a community, which may
> be thought of as a context (in terms of allowing self-reference, group
> identity, and differentiation.  This has to do with unix/gnu linux
> because of the stretch I've made to add computing analogies to a thread
> which was originally about computing but then digressed into high
> science.  Code can't run itself, and holographic storage is not useful
> without us, or at least sufficiently advanced Aibos and Furbys.

I agree here too that even holographic storage is not useful without us.
However that wasn't my point.  I described an internet with an amazing
amount of storage, an amazing number of nodes and connections with zero time
transmission and holographic storage mechanisms (break a plate in two
and get two apples not two halves).  Such is a potential accurate
representation of a brain.  Information is stored and retrieved by
three-dimensional interference patterns spread around the entire
internet in near zero time, just like it is when burning or reading a
holographic plate, and how it is believed by some the way the brain
works.  

As far as the internet waking up, who knows... the above environment may
provide the physical complexity to house a consciousness.

Cory

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