Howdy. Please tend toward *small* conversations, and include people or
lists AS they define their interest... it is good netiquette. Since I
don't have anything to do with EFN, I'd like to take the opportunity to
go ahead and tell my own part... since this wasn't marked as spam
(darn!).
I think there is a great responsibility on the end-user. For instance,
you obviously made the right choice, to not entirely trust the spam
filter. You got your mail, good. Potential political motivations aside
(and in these coming months, I expect to see almost *anything* being
called "politically motivated"!!), I don't think that this has much
bearing on EUGLUG. Post to activism, please!!!
Buy more viagra, cheaper spam now, great new offer, yada yada.
Sigh....
ciao,
Ben
PS - What in the world does the OPN Board have to do with EFN's
technical ops?
PPS - Have a great politcally-motivated evening...
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:02:01 -0800
"Marc Baber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| Hi Larry (and Cc's),
|
| Now that I've got your attention with an over-the-top provocative
| subject line :-), Please forgive me for singling you (Larry) out as
| the expert on the subject of [EMAIL PROTECTED], but you've been very helpful on the
| topic more than once in the past and I suspect you're our best hope of
|
| finding answers to a troubling problem:
|
| I've been noticing that all e-mail coming to me from the local Dean
| campaign is flagged as [EMAIL PROTECTED] by EFN's servers. Had I not specifically
| requested and arranged for my [EMAIL PROTECTED] to be delivered instead of silently
| deleted, the EFN system would have deleted this e-mail without
| informing me and I would not be aware of the event announced in this
| e-mail. Most people don't make the arrangements that I have to see
| their spam and decide for themselves. I wonder how many EFN users
| opted into this list and will never hear about the upcoming event
| because of EFN's [EMAIL PROTECTED] filters? I wonder how that may effect
| attendance at the event? funds raised? election outcome? (Yeah, I
| know, but hey, it was *real* close last time!)
|
| The overwhelming criterion for identifying this e-mail as [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the
| "Bayesian [EMAIL PROTECTED] probability". I'm familiar with the term "Bayesian
| networks" and understand that somebody has probably implemented a spam
| recognition heuristic based on such technology.
|
| My questions are:
|
| 1. Is EFN currently using [EMAIL PROTECTED] as the server name "oswald"
| suggests? If so, what version? If not, what [EMAIL PROTECTED] filter is being
| used? 2. The "Bayesian probability" suggests to me that there is a
| repository of reported [EMAIL PROTECTED] somewhere that incoming e-mail is compared
| against to see if it resembles any previously reported spiced-ham
| incidents. This leads me to further questions:
| a. Is the repository local to EFN or "out there on the 'net". If the
| latter, where (what URL(s)) is the repository?
| b. Who decides what reference e-mails go into the repositor(ies)?
| What criteria do they use? Can we check to see who may have reported
| *solicited* (not unsolicited) Dean campaign e-mail?
|
| I think there is a huge incentive for political zealots to abuse spam
| filters for political goals if they can be so abused. I want to make
| sure that there are mechanisms in place to prevent such censoring,
| both at EFN and elsewhere. I welcome knowledge and insights from
| anyone familiar with popular spam filtering tech.
|
| Thank you for listening, This issue is likely to become my favorite
| rant for the coming year :-),
|
| Marc
|
| -------- Original Message --------
| From: - Mon Nov 10 13:48:49 2003
| X-UIDL: 1058303202.5853
| X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
| X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000
| Received: from localhost [127.0.0.1] by oswald.efn.org with
| SpamAssassin (2.60 1.212-2003-09-23-exp); Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:26:22
| -0800 From: "Ron Burley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| Subject: *****SPAM***** [Dean2004] Howard Dean's Birthday Party
| Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:24:33 -0800
| Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| X-Spam-Flag: YES
| X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on
| oswald.efn.org
| X-Spam-Server: oswald.efn.org
| X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=6.2 required=5.0
| tests=BAYES_99,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,
| HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TAG_BALANCE_A,
| UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.60
| X-Spam-Level: ******
| MIME-Version: 1.0
| Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
| boundary="----------=_3FB01E9E.C99E58B1"
|
|
|
| Spam detection software, running on the system "oswald.efn.org", has
| identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message
| has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or
| block similar future email. If you have any questions, see
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] for details.
|
| Content preview: ------=_NextPart_000_00A4_01C3A79E.C4066290
| ------=_NextPart_001_00A5_01C3A79E.C4066290 Happy Birthday Howard!
| You are invited to join Teresa Damron & Lane County for Dean as we
| celebrate Governor Howard Dean's birthday. The event will be this
| Saturday, November 15th, beginning at 5pm. There will be a delicious
| lite buffet, great conversation, Dean videos, free beer & wine, a
| conference call with the birthday boy and, of course... a birthday
| cake! Host: Teresa Damron Address: 605 Howard Street (off River
| Road), Eugene, Oregon Time: 5 - 8pm Space is limited, so RSVP
| promptly to Ellen Hyman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or
| call LCFD at 541-242-0639. We promise a great time for all and hope
| that you will be able to join us to wish Howard Dean a Happy
| Birthday.------=_NextPart_001_00A5_01C3A79E.C4066290 [...]
|
| Content analysis details: (6.2 points, 5.0 required)
|
| pts rule name description
| ---- ----------------------
| --------------------------------------------------
| 5.4 BAYES_99 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 99 to
| 100%
| [score: 1.0000]
| 0.1 HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE BODY: HTML font color is blue
| 0.1 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message
| 0.3 HTML_FONT_BIG BODY: HTML has a big font
| 0.1 HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE BODY: HTML font color not in safe 6x6x6
| palette 0.2 HTML_TAG_BALANCE_A BODY: HTML has excess "a" close
| tags 0.0 UPPERCASE_25_50 message body is 25-50% uppercase
|
| The original message was not completely plain text, and may be unsafe
| to open with some email clients; in particular, it may contain a
| virus, or confirm that your address can receive spam. If you wish to
| view it, it may be safer to save it to a file and open it with an
| editor
|
|
|
|
|
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