On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 11:26:12AM -0800, Jason wrote:
> --- Jacob Meuser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> <snip>
> > Jason, if you like OpenBSD, but want more hardware
> > support
> > for your desktop needs, why not try out NetBSD?
> 
> I'm not too awfully worried about hardware, since I'll
> be using pretty standard gear (laptop actually).

Yeah, but, for example, XFree86 works fine for me on OpenBSD,
but it doesn't have DRI support.

> I am
> most interested in software maintainability. I've
> always liked ports, which is why I've been considering
> Gentoo as well.
> 
> I'm becoming less a fan of maintaining currency via
> binary packages, and the way I tend to organize and
> set up my systems, building from source tends to be
> easier and quicker even factoring in build times. 

Well, I'm becoming more of a fan of maintaining currency
via binary packages, at least on OpenBSD.  The base set
snapshots actually have code that's not in CVS.  Even though
there's no official way to automatically update ports, 
with a little scripting, it's not that hard.  I can binary
update my OpenBSD systems (base, XFree86 and ~100 packages)
in less time than it takes to build qt3, even on a relatively
quick system.

But sometimes, yeah I do like to just build everything,
which is why I mentioned the problems I encountered with
FreeBSD's ports.  Granted, if I had run 'make build install'
as root, I wouldn't have had those problems, but I don't
think it's reasonable to build a bunch of third party
software as root.  Especially when there is supposed to
be a mechanism to make that possible.  I have never had
such problems with OpenBSD's ports (and I like the idea
of using sudo instead of su anyway ... too bad the other
BSD's don't include sudo by default).

> Plus, just about everything (if not all) I need will
> run on FreeBSD, so I figured I might give it a shot on
> my next work pc.

There are hundreds of unofficial OpenBSD ports floating
around the net ...

Generally speaking, getting something running on OpenBSD
isn't all that difficult, and usually getting it to work
points out bugs in the build process/software anyway.

So, if I may ask, why exactly are you looking into
something other than OpenBSD?

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