On Fri, Jul 02, 2004 at 10:45:03AM -0700, Russ Johnson wrote:
> >It really isn't different.
> >Attaching your address to your keys is just as stupid.
> >I'm sick of the American trend of always blaming someone else
> >for one's own stupidity.
> > 
> However, it does not make the act of B&E any less illegal.

Again, the word "solely" should have been in the message somewhere.


> No matter how stupid one is, the criminal is still responsible for their 
> own actions, and should be held accountable. Even when the root password 
> for the server is stenciled on the keyboard.

The point being that the responsibility is not solely their own.  Indeed,
at a local company, the network was down for a couple of weeks because the
system was under attack of some sort.  Turns out the reason the attack was
possible (this was NT here) was that the server was unpatched--admin said
he only applied patches once a month because it was too hard to keep up
with them otherwise.

He lost his job.  He was determined to share responsibility for the attack
by not applying a two-week-old patch which would have prevented it.  A day
or maybe two later, he might not have been, but he was a professional and
he left a system unpatched for two weeks.  The attacker was still
attacking the system, but the admin made it possible--indeed trivial.

A bank using Windows on an ATM is just as responsible for security
problems associated with using it as anyone causing those problems because
it's patently STUPID to use Windows on a financial securely-critical
machine.  It doesn't take a whole lot of imagination to see why some
custom system not in common usage outside of the field would be better.
No, not security through obscurity, just simply not using something with a
whole bunch of frequent security vulnerabilities and a codebase you don't
have access to for an audit.

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