On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 09:32:17PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On 1/15/06, LinuxRocks! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 1/15/06, Jacob Meuser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > 8 years ago ... that would be like OpenBSD 2.2. a _lot_ has changed > > > > since then, both code and attitudes. your comments are quite outdated. > > > > > > I'm sure a lot of things have changed, but it doesn't really matter to > > > me. NetBSD suits my needs just fine. I was referring to OpenBSD back > > > then, not to OpenBSD now - so I don't think that my comments were > > > outdated. > > > > wow, i think you just defined what jacob meant by outdated. > > The really nice part was where you discredit him first with the "I'm sure a > > lot of things have changed". > > First of all, I was not discrediting him. I mean that "I'm sure" > things have changed since then, because if they didn't, then the > OpenBSD project would not exist today. But now that you mention it, I > was curious to see if things really HAVE changed. Looking at the > misc@ archives for last month, I can easily find posts that bring out > the best of Theo and the traditional OpenBSD attitude: > > http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/openbsd/2005-12/0053.html
haha! I knew this was the thread the link was pointing to before I actually looked. I invite everyone to read that, as well as all posts leading up to and following it. quite a hoot. > And then someone blames it on the vendor, and not the driver... > http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/openbsd/2005-12/0056.html > > And some more welcoming comments from the OpenBSD users... > http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/openbsd/2005-12/0062.html > > Then a handful of ashamed OpenBSD users apologize for the group... > http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/openbsd/2005-12/0095.html > > Everyone realizes it's all fake, and we hear more encouraging words > from the users... > http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/openbsd/2005-12/0139.html > > I don't know how many times I've seen this stuff on that particular > mailing list. seen what? people intentionally trying to make OpenBSD look bad by making false claims, making up fake situations, and bringing up the beaten horse's dusty bones? some would attribute such shenanigans to jealousy. sure, we could just ignore such things, but, hey, it's entertainment. > It looks like the "if you don't like it, go away" > attitude is still strong among OpenBSD users/developers. yes, it is, and so is "shut up and hack". that's _precisely_ how new developers are picked from the fold. just because OpenBSD is more "Open" about it, does not mean this exact same process is not actually happening in all "development communities". I'm surprised you did not post a link to my post to misc@ from about the same time about why whiners are ignored. or maybe it just makes too much plain and obvious sense to try to troll against. > Like I said, > NetBSD suits my needs so I'm not really all that excited about whether > or not the OpenBSD crowd is more accepting now. I don't see anything > that OpenBSD has, that NetBSD (or Linux for that matter) doesn't have > and that I would really need. > > > Please stop. > > Stop what exactly? being a troll. no one suggested you use OpenBSD, so why do you care to tell us why you don't like OpenBSD? your time would be better spent debunking Joseph's reply to me that started "You are a BSD user", since that would include you. -- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> _______________________________________________ EUGLUG mailing list [email protected] http://www.euglug.org/mailman/listinfo/euglug
